How would feel if someone made a fix fic of your story?

Is it actually in violation of copyright? My understanding is that it would be if the author tried to make any profit off it, (and it has no legal standing so you can't sue others for infringing it) but not by being published for free. I'm not sure about this, and it probably varies between countries.

In the US anything made from a copyright (fanfic, derivative work, etc) that doesn't have express permission from the copyright holder is a violation. Fanfic qualifies as just that.

The thing is, while it is illegal almost nobody in the IP enforcing world cares since 99.99% of fanfics are never made with intent to sell.

Also, a lot of authors don't read fan-fic of their work due to moral and ethical issues.

I mean, plagiarizing a fan-fic of one's work would leave a bitter taste in all parties' mouths.

Hey,

You know what? As a fanfic author AND aspiring author, I would be flattered if there were any fan fic being written of my work. It would actually be hypocritical if I didn't feel anything less than flattery.

As for fix fic? Bring it on! With the right execution, it would be appreciated, and as I have written a fix fic myself, I'd love to see how people get on with something of mine.

Yes, I have actually writen a fix fic. It is full of pretention, and if you want to know more, it is NoHoper by 'Ruin Takada' (as I am known as a fanfic author). It's Death Note crossed over with the House of Night. Enjoy.

Depends on the quality of the end product.

I'd be pretty flattered, but in the end it really depends on how it's executed. It could be insightful, or it could be hurtful, or it could just be plain hilarious.

I don't have any qualms about fanfiction and fan art—I think they're both very flattering that a person likes your works enough to write their own stories about the world and characters you created.

I still don't get why so many people think fanfiction (especially Fix Fic) necessarily suggests any real love for the canon work as such.

As a writer of it I'd like to think it does; certainly it does for me. Unfortunately, having actually looked at the girl-girl romance AU wasteland that is the Nanoha section on most days...

OP: Mission Accoplished.

That's technically true, but not always how it plays out. Because lawyers cost money, and so do legal battles, there is still a fear of finding yourself unable to publish the story if someone goes through the effort of suing you.

This isn't included in the Wikipedia article, but when I first read this story there was the added detail of the lawyer not actually being her lawyer, but the publisher's lawyer. Because the lawyer suggested not pursuing the issue, the publisher then decided they wouldn't be publishing the book, which was already finished, which also managed to completely screw up Marion Zimmer Bradley's finances. I have no idea if those details are true or not, but that's likely the part that's managed to scare a lot of authors off fanfiction.

edited 24th Oct '12 2:41:33 AM by Dec

Because unless it's "school project"-type fanfic ("Write what you think was going on in Juliet's head while she was waiting for Romeo") or outright Troll Fic, it suggests something in the work moved them and reached them enough that they feel the need to explore it fuller. If it's Fix Fic, that generally means some element of the plot or characters got so deeply into them, and they were so attached and invested in it, that the hurt they feel over the ending/sunk ship/whathaveyou is deep and they want to ameliorate that.

That's true up to a point, but there is also a relatively large amount of fanfiction based on thinking, "Hey, this is a cool idea...but I don't like the way it turned out. I could do better..."

Again, explain to me the popularity of High School AU or romance AU works that really have nothing to do with their originator or even the characters supposedly being used.

Then we can talk.

edited 24th Oct '12 12:05:56 PM by Night

Even if a fanwork has little to nothing to do with the thing it's based on, the fact that it's based on it at all means the person writing it must have liked that thing to some degree.

easy headcanons.

High school A Us take the characters the writers are familiar with and fond of, but place them in a setting the author is more infinitely familiar with. It makes it easier for the author to write, due to their familiarity, and it makes the characters even more relatable to their author by bringing them down (or, in same cases, up) to their level.

I actually had a High School AU fic in mind once, because I wanted to do an HSAU that wasn't a romance. Never got around to it; still want to, though.

couldn't have said it better.

Yeah, I'm not going to remotely buy that considering the way the characters frequently change and the fact that the majority of the High School AU genre isn't written by higschoolers. Middle perhaps.

I'd have to imagine that high school AU works would have to be written mainly by people who buy into the thing that is Traditional Popular High School Dynamics.

Which given the internet, applies to people from middle school age to well into their thirties.

: Which doesn't really change the fact that it's still a familiar setting for them... Or that learning to stay in character takes some practice, especially if you're young.

@Night: There need to be more fanfic writers like you.

Someone needs to write nrjxll x Night fanfiction.

It depends. In an ideal scenario, if some major flaw in a story I wrote somehow ended up getting past my eyes, yet a fan read said story and applied fixes where needed, I would be touched that said fan took several days/weeks out of their life to pour their heart out in remedying my work. After all, contrary to what the alarming number of anti-fanfic literary writers think, fanfics of any kind do have legitimate merit, and in this case, fix fics qualify in analyzing a pre-existing world to later add on to it. It's not (always) about money or "copyright" in my eyes- it's about execution.

One other little detail- I myself actually did write a fix fic of a sort at least once before (though not on the usual sites). Therefore, if I DMCA'd a fix fic of my work without making any effort to circumvent anything forcing me to, it would make me look like a hypocrite. I'm always for the fans, and, except in monetary circumstances, will ALWAYS bend backwards for them.

No, actually, it isn't. Just because you create a work that is in violation of copyright does not mean that any original ideas in that work aren't copyrighted themselves. This is an issue that many authors and studios have had to deal with- if they read a submitted script and then happen to put out a new character that's similar to one in the script, they can be sued. Many of them will refuse to read fanfiction/submitted scripts for this reason (they could still be sued if a character is similar and non-obvious enough, but the bar is much lower when they know that the original authors have read the fanwork).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_issues_with_fan_fiction http://www.business2community.com/entertainment/copyright-myths-from-the-world-of-fan-fiction-0588594

Well, I read the fanfic tropes, I investigated every corner of the Internet and ran way when necessary. If someone wrote a fix fic, the results would vary from anonimously reviewing his story and saying "you just wanted a happy ending(I'm a guy that likes my Bittersweet/ Downer endings), eh?" to facepalm myself and say "Why I didn't think of that?".

edited 10th Sep '15 7:11:08 PM by MeetTheNewBoss

Annoyed and insulted, probably, with a smidgen of doubt. Annoyed that someone missed the point of my story, and insulted that they think their changes make it better, while also slightly worried that I didn't communicate my intentions with the piece as well as I'd have liked.