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RoboCop remake in 2013:

 51 Nohbody, Mon, 8th Oct '12 11:03:50 PM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
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Dream Huntress: I can't think of a practical reason for it within the context of the remake.

This is purely WAG material, as I've not followed the production, but perhaps they're thinking of the possible occasional necessity of a handshake for public relations purposes, and they can't make a synthetic hand that feels "natural"?

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edited 8th Oct '12 11:04:57 PM by Nohbody

That makes sense. One of those recurring ideas floating around in different fiction is that even if they are the good guys seeing someone look armed to the teeth or even demonic can make it hard for civilians to trust them. Similar concepts are found in Halo, Batman and even the original Robocop, they kept his face on for a reason. The human hand is meant to convey that he still has a conscience.

I think the armor design looks alright but the details are lost in the monochrome color. I will admit the helmet looks fantastic, a blend of the original and Knight Rider. And one of the main reasons the original Robo design worked so well was because Peter Weller's physical performance absolutely sold it (things like turning at the shoulder separately from the waist made him look very mechanical, which was still there but brilliantly subdued when he regained the Murphy persona).

 53 Deboss, Tue, 9th Oct '12 7:46:38 PM from Awesomeville Texas
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Honestly, I'm okay with the suit. While I get the desire to make it look more robotic all the way through, that would likely manifest as something similar to something from the Film/Transformers series, which I feel is totally wrong for the way I picture a Robocop. However, how I'd design it would pretty much require almost all CG due to joint removal.

Or better yet, he loses the hand due to the previously mentioned focus group deciding to ditch it.

edited 9th Oct '12 7:48:47 PM by Deboss

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[up] The original didn't look transformer-ish and didn't require CGI. It's entirely doable to have something that doesn't look like a dude wearing a rubber suit.

I like the helmet. That's as much credit as I can give. The rest of the costume looks terrible.

 55 Psyclone, Fri, 12th Oct '12 7:33:27 AM from Somewhere else
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re: the hand: not crazy about it either. And you KNOW it's going to be used in some Wangsty moment where he looks at his hand and bemoans/contemplates his lost humanity or what not.

The armor looks a tad generic, true but then again, if the hand is there then maybe it's meant to be more of an exoskeleton than a fully artificial body? Then it makes sense that it looks like something that was grafted on top of a corpse than a robot body.

edited 12th Oct '12 7:36:34 AM by Psyclone

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 56 Star Outlaw, Fri, 12th Oct '12 9:01:06 PM from Frontier Space Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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The costume definitely needs more color to it, but other than that I like it. I would probably color the matte parts of it blue, just to give it a more traditional police palette. But that visor is really damn cool.

It definitely could look a lot more mechanical. I hope that the acting makes the movements more robotic. I'm actually rather surprised at just how tall he looks.

I sort of like the one human hand as well. I think perhaps the reason for it could be that it still has more dexterity than a robot hand and could aim a pistol better, or some BS like that (which would be ironic since, if I remember correctly, Murphy was a terrible shot when he was all human).

Actually, I think it's just so he's able to still have some sense of touch, if most of his body is made of cold, unfeeling metal. It's much easier to replicate sight and hearing, and he probably still has smell and taste if his head was mostly intact, but he probably needs some way to actually sense through touch. I don't think pressing his lips on everything is the best way.

Alternatively, they may cover it up with some CGI effect.

edited 12th Oct '12 10:04:44 PM by StarOutlaw

Hey, he has a robo-bike now, and I sincerely don't know how to feel about this (yeah, I remember he rode a bike in Robocop 2, but that was a one time thing).

edited 13th Oct '12 10:42:15 PM by Dream_Huntress

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 58 Psyclone, Sun, 14th Oct '12 3:10:27 AM from Somewhere else
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...OK, THAT has me worried. Please don't tell me they're taking the "toyetic" route.
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 59 maxwellelvis, Sun, 14th Oct '12 5:42:30 AM from undisclosed location Relationship Status: In my bunk
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[up]Well, between the bike and the rumors of Robocop being upgraded several times during the movie, I'm not gonna say it's to sell toys, but it's to sell toys.
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 60 Psyclone, Sun, 14th Oct '12 6:18:56 AM from Somewhere else
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The upgrade thing I can see it being a satire of modern products constantly being released with only minor changes (the iPhone, Firefox, etc). But this is just a blatant cash grab. The only way to cushion the blow would be to they include some sort of scene where Omni Corp starts selling toys as well. That would be an amusing nod.

edited 14th Oct '12 6:19:49 AM by Psyclone

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 61 Star Outlaw, Mon, 15th Oct '12 4:17:26 AM from Frontier Space Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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I don't think the bike is something to worry about. Some cops ride motorcycles, and why not make it a custom ride? Besides, it doesn't seem all that outlandish in design. And it's fifteen years into the future.

And keep in mind that a lot of these things may work better in context. Robocop had a nice healthy dose of satire and that's one thing that makes the original film unique. It could be the same here, there could be in universe reasons for some of these design choices.

edited 15th Oct '12 4:20:30 AM by StarOutlaw

 62 Napoleon De Cheese, Mon, 15th Oct '12 3:55:32 PM from Valencia, Venezuela
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Even if they keep the hand human, wouldn't it make far more protective sense keeping it armored? I hope that's a shoot from a scene where he loses that glove.

Other than that, not an awful suit, but not great looking either.
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 63 Star Outlaw, Mon, 15th Oct '12 5:10:45 PM from Frontier Space Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Time to roll the dice
I think one other thing to keep in mind about his design is that he's supposed to be a piece of law enforcement equipment, not a superhero, so that could justify the blandness. But I still love the visor and think it really works.

edited 15th Oct '12 5:11:22 PM by StarOutlaw

 64 Deboss, Mon, 15th Oct '12 5:31:38 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
While he wasn't robotic in the previous one, I suspect that Bay style robotics are the "in" robot style right now unless they specifically try not too.
I'm curious about all of the Bayformers comparison to it, if anything it looks like an Iron Man knockoff. Now if it had an ungodly amount of shifting pieces I might understand...

The release schedule has been rearranged, now the movie is going to be released until February 2014.

This is just odd, on one side the project could benefit from it if they need to do reshoots or rewrites, but it also feels just weird that they're pushing it so far. In case anybody is wondering, the original August 2013 release date has now been given to Elysium, a sci-fi movie starring Matt Damon and Jodie foster, directed by Neill Blomkamp.

edited 15th Oct '12 9:07:14 PM by Dream_Huntress

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 67 Psyclone, Thu, 18th Oct '12 4:16:07 PM from Somewhere else
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I'm more worried that it was delayed to February, AKA dumping season. Then again, though I can't think of any examples off the top of my head, there was the odd exception to that rule...
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 68 Deboss, Thu, 18th Oct '12 7:42:04 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I'm curious about all of the Bayformers comparison to it, if anything it looks like an Iron Man knockoff. Now if it had an ungodly amount of shifting pieces I might understand...

That was the point I was making I think. If you want robots, the current aesthetics seem to be either Ironman styled suit or Robots you can see through with greebles out the asshole.
It's a long way until 2014, but in the meantime here's a look of an upgraded version of the Robocop suit. I don't know if this counts as a spoiler, but we were told very early that there are going to be different versions of his cybernetic body thorough the movie, so I'm guessing it doesn't counts as one.

My opinion on the suit? Meh.
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[up]... He looks like he's been game-jumping to Hero's Duty. tongue

 71 maxwellelvis, Fri, 16th Nov '12 8:13:35 PM from undisclosed location Relationship Status: In my bunk
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[up]No, he looks like an Ultron.
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 72 Psyclone, Sat, 17th Nov '12 3:03:29 AM from Somewhere else
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I assume the silver one is the "Looks like a toy from the 80s" one. I like it.
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More concept art, now with suit more similar to the 80s one.
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Perhaps they are doing a We Can Rebuild Him thing similar to Baxter Stockman?

It isn't the first time OCP did something moraly wrong and kinda stupid and would forshadow robocop 2 rather well.

An Aint It Cool News forum with Peter Weller on the original movie. Very interesting stuff, especially his discussion on the fallout that happened when the suit first showed up several weeks into filming. I had heard his movement training was shot to hell when he finally put on the suit but they were about ready to can the movie because it didn't work.

It's amazing how the last minute change in how he moves in the suit is what sells the movie. It's one of the most perfect physical examples of Implacable Man.

edited 13th May '13 12:15:08 PM by KJMackley

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