Magic: The Gathering (Unreleased Sets)

So, I'm willing to bet that this◊ is Narset as a planeswalker.

Looks very Ojutai-ish. I hope my vibes are wrong. Though she is an outcast in this timeline, so that would make little sense...

Also, look, Tasigur!◊ :)

edited 2nd Mar '15 3:31:01 PM by ImperialSunlight

For Silumgar's clan, "Khan" is not so much a forbidden word as it is a synonym for "necklace".

edited 2nd Mar '15 3:42:10 PM by Elfive

Everyone else just tells you that the word "khan" is synonymous with "your death". Silumgar makes sure you have an object lesson to consider as well.

So, as you may know, now that the Elder Dragons have "returned", it's important to keep two things in mind, since most people aren't aware of Magic's history:

- The original Elder Dragons were basically like the Eldrazi: non-planeswalkers with god like powers that went everywhere. They were a key part in old storylines, with some others besides Bolas showing up in the comics. Doug Beyer doesn't seem to understand what they were, trying to reduce them to a Dominaria based phenomenon, which is vaguely analogous to saying that oldwalkers never actually had any importance in anything. This is quite a tragedy for Magic's flavour, as it becomes clear that the creators simply don't give a shit.

- Now's for happier news, it's made clear that these aren't the same type of creature. The problem is that this creates unnecessary confusion.

I have a feeling that if the absurdly prominent theories about Narset are true, Taigam may take her place in the legendary cycle. I think having her twice would be a bit silly, despite being a possibility, and not completing a cycle isn't a thing that commonly happens.

It's an entirely accurate term (they're the Elders of the dragon tribes) whilst being slightly confusing for those aware of ancient lore that hasn't really come up in-game in years.

The original Elder Dragons are dead, and have been dead for so long that "Ancient Dragon" might be a better term for them. This isn't going to confuse anybody.

And you guys said I was dumb for saying that it would be an ally color set.

I found this on Tumblr:

Dag nabbit, he's right!

edited 2nd Mar '15 6:44:34 PM by TheSpaceJawa

I love that new 1R enchantment. A cheaper Scourge of Valkas essentially, quite appropriate for my EDH deck lol

I guess from Formidable that the loss of blue has shifted (former) Temur from relying on the power of a few with great power to collective power. It almost feels like it should be Green White flavor wise rather than Green Red.

I think there are going to be more attack triggers than anything else, based on the initial preview, which will make it feel more red than white.

x5 None of us really said you were dumb for saying that, more that we didn't want it to be true. I more so think wizards is dumb for actually doing it. It seems a waste. If they wanted a cycle of legendary allied dragons (essentially the only reasoning I've found so far for it), they got it in Fate. They don't have to do it again. They could have had them mutate into different colors over the years, or something. Plus the broods are more "mono-color with a splash" than multicolored (Which is pretty similar to my prediction on that page, btw, bar basing it on the enemies of the wedges, which was just my preference), and it seems to be shaping into a fairly heavily monocolored set.

And The Space Jawa's point about the change basically wasting Tarkir as a plane besides being it being "dragon-ville" is still a sensible one.

On Dragon Tempest, I'm not sure about it in EDH. I can't tell if it'll do enough in the dragon decks that exist to be worth a slot, since they're more about a few really big dragons than lots of little dragons, and a lot of dragons have haste already. But I'll test it in Zirilan. It depends a lot on whether there are more effective small dragons in this set.

Edit: You know how I said it's mostly monocolor so far? Welp, so much for that.

edited 3rd Mar '15 8:01:00 AM by ImperialSunlight

Don't worry, it was a joke.

Speaking of multicolored, we've got allied colored commands. It's too bad that art can't compare to the Lorwyn Commands, though.

Edit: Damn, I like that card. I need to start brewing Esper control...

edited 3rd Mar '15 8:35:45 AM by Funden

I really like that art, personally, though the Lorwyn art was great in a different way.

The dragons are mostly cool. The RG one is a bit underwhelming since it's usually the color with some of the best dragons, but I can see wanting to make them reasonably balanced.

Yeah, I'm nit impressed by the RG. The UW one could definitely be a viable control finisher, imo (though I think that PLA was still better).

What do people think about Shaman of Forgotten Ways? On the one hand he provides one more mana per tap than Slyvian Cariatid while only costing 1 more man, on the other hand that man is restricted, and on the mutant third hand with green you are mostly going to be playing big creatures anyway.

I'm sure someone will try it in Gx devotion, but it feels like overkill to me.

I wasn't even thinking of it's last ability, I was just thinking of it's use as a utility card.

Someone's already made a Tasigur necklace.

Arashin Sovereign is great for a big hitter in my Standard WG deck. Could replace the current biggies there, Hydra Broodmaster - maybe if token production is hard to do? -, Anthousa, Setessan Hero, and Avacyn, Guardian Angel. Sandsteppe Mastodon can be replaced in my sideboard too. Sunscorch Regent is also a great option. Then of course, there is the Shaman of Forgotten Ways...

Meanwhile, Profound Journey can find use in my UW deck. Stratus Dancer too, I guess...

edited 3rd Mar '15 7:34:13 PM by entropy13

On another note, I'm getting the impression that they're going to be pushing Dromoka as the 'good' dragon of the new modern day Tarkir vs the other four. Or at least the closest thing to it.

Senora Kolaghan

Looks very nice to drop on turn three, and people do love replacement Elspeths.

Given that Dromoka's the white focused one, it's not surprising that it appears that way.

I think the Ojutai are turning out just as good-seeming, apart from their strictness, though, which seems the case to some degree with Dromoka too, and that we remember them being dickish to the clans before, which was also the case for Dromoka who forced the destruction of Abzan culture and stuff. And really the Ojutai monks don't seem tons different from the Jeskai so far.

edited 4th Mar '15 4:17:15 AM by ImperialSunlight

When White goes all Tyrannical it does tend to be rather good-natured about it.

"As the one most qualified to rule you I must accept it as my natural duty" type thing.

edited 4th Mar '15 5:42:01 AM by Elfive

Kolaghan: The new bane of Relentless Rats everywhere.