This is kind of old news. Robin Hood and Aristocats were were pretty much during Disney's dark ages(the period after Walt's death —->Disney renaissance).
It's not like they were proud of this...Milt Kahl was a vocal critic of this
edited 24th Jun '12 2:54:05 AM by blueflame724
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Wow, this is old news. Really Old News I have a book by Leonard Maltin about this, dated 1987
It might be old but I didn't know about this, thanks for the link.
http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Interviews/Kahl/Kahl.html
"Barrier: I have a tape of a talk that Woolie Reitherman gave in New York in 1973, and several people in the audience asked him, in effect, why aren't the films better, why are the stories so loose-jointed and unsatisfying, and his only answer, repeatedly, was, “They make money.”
Kahl: I can't cope with this man, I absolutely can't cope with him. I detest the use of—it just breaks my heart to see animation from Snow White used in The Rescuers. It kills me, and it just embarrasses me to tears. I went back to Florida with Woolie for a party for the wire services and the press for Robin Hood. And I met a guy who about twenty years ago I met at a friend's house; he was with Paramount at the time, a publicity man. His name was Emory Wister; he worked for the Charlotte Register [probably the Observer]. He is a Disney buff, an animation buff. And these guys always scare me, because they know more about the pictures than I do. And he recognized this goddamned animation, where Maid Marian is dancing around with little creatures; he recognized it from Snow White. This is our Woolie, and it drives me crazy.
Barrier: I can't see how the re-use of animation saves money.
Kahl: It doesn't. The funny thing is that most of the time they spend more money trying to figure out how to re-use it than they would [animating the scene from scratch]. I'd rather see it animated from scratch; even if it's a little bit amateurish, at least it's fresh and new."
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Animation of a grazing deer from Bambi was also re-used in The Sword in the Stone, The Jungle Book, and Beauty and the Beast. And in Bambi, animation of a bird settling on a nest was previously seen in "The Old Mill."
I don't think this is necessarily a problem as such. It's not a good thing either, but it seems strange to get worked up over it. From a craftsmanship standpoint I don't think it's any worse than re-using a sewing pattern to make more than one costume.
Stuff what I do.
It's not only in animation itself, either. I remember the bad taste I got back when I watched a Tale Spin episode and realized it was a carbon copy of a Duck Tales episode, just replacing Launchpad with Baloo.
edited 24th Jun '12 8:13:41 AM by NapoleonDeCheese
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Wasn't that Bambi's Mom?
Bambie's mom wasn't killed, she faked her death to leave the kid behind and go live her own itinerant life around the world.
edited 24th Jun '12 12:19:50 PM by NapoleonDeCheese
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Honestly, it's not like Disney were the only ones to do it. Everyone resuses animations, Stock Footage, etc... It'd be faster naming the ones that do not.
Was that the episode Don Rosa wrote? "Time Bandits" or something?
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
I remember both shows having a "Let's convince everyone it's Saturday when it's really Friday and it gets out of hand and there is supposed to be a solar eclipse but the clouds are in the way so we need to move them" episode.
Is that what you ment?
Yes, that was it.
Just awesome like that
@ that plot
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...wut.
edited 29th Jun '12 4:03:15 PM by 0dd1
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IIRC, it had an extremely over the top, and quite ridiculous, case of Can't Get Away with Nuthin'.
I remember the Talespin one had Rebecca in a Soviet Thembrian prison about to executed for being supposedly late. I don't recall ever seeing the Ducktales version of it.
The Nephews want a new bycicle, but they get their allowance on Saturday and on that day the bike will no longer be sold. The convince Scrooge that Friday is Saturday. Unfortunatly, Scrooge is a very powerful duck....
What was the Talespin reason for changing Friday to Saturday?
edited 28th Jun '13 1:12:24 AM by Smasher
Money reasons. Corrupt corporation not wanting to pay their employs a bonus I believe.
Now that's just sad
Also, embarrassing: don't you feel like you should have noticed?
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