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 776 SKJAM, Mon, 5th Nov '12 7:00:18 PM from Minneapolis Relationship Status: Cast away
Great and Powerful
Thorn, have you checked in with your City Hall ombudsman's office (or equivalent) to find out where the state job assistance offices are?

Note that if your shaking is to the point of a legal disability, it yes, narrows down your options some, but there are government programs specifically for people in that situation that will help find suitable work.

edited 5th Nov '12 7:00:30 PM by SKJAM

Gunpla is amazing!
I know you guys are right. I have a HUGE confidence problem. Always have my whole life. I don't know what to do about it.

[up]

No, what would I have to do? I don't think its bad enough to qualify me for disability, but its enough to make things stink.

See someone who can help!

I'm not sure who that would be, since I'm pretty fuzzy on all that stuff, but I imagine a psychologist or a counsellor?

 779 They Call Me Tomu, Mon, 5th Nov '12 8:18:21 PM Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Sureeeeendaaaa
Look, in Thorn's case, yes, his self-doubt is holding him back. But this "Oh you just need to believe in yourself" line of thought strikes me as kind of cultish.

Gunpla is amazing!
Its not their fault.

Many people can't understand how bad this self confidence issue is.

 781 Ira The Squire, Mon, 5th Nov '12 8:55:21 PM from No idea. Measuring speed
Phyrexian Dalek
To be honest, I think that it's less "believe in yourself" and more "close your eyes and take the plunge" that you need and what everyone else is suggesting. Forget about "can't do this and that". Forget about whether or not you're capable. Just yell out "Leeroy Jenkins" and charge forwards and take the first step. It's not going to hurt you. At worse, you're back to where you're right now, and you can still try again.

At least, you don't specifically need to get into a certain job type.

edited 5th Nov '12 8:57:21 PM by IraTheSquire

Gunpla is amazing!
Well I haven't given up completely. I just signed up for a college course in intro to programming and IT.

 783 Ira The Squire, Mon, 5th Nov '12 8:59:17 PM from No idea. Measuring speed
Phyrexian Dalek
Good, then go for it. Forget about everything else. Just focus on your goal. No buts. No "I can't do this". There's nothing between your goal and yourself. Just charge.

Gee, now I sound like one of those "self-help" people. tongue

edited 5th Nov '12 9:00:01 PM by IraTheSquire

Gunpla is amazing!
Well I still need a job. [lol]

 785 Ira The Squire, Mon, 5th Nov '12 9:56:24 PM from No idea. Measuring speed
Phyrexian Dalek
Oh ok. tongue

Well, just send out resumes then. Don't worry about if you can get it. Don't worry about if you can do the work. Because neither of those things are controllable. There's nothing you can do about it, so there's no point in worrying.
 786 SKJAM, Mon, 5th Nov '12 10:27:46 PM from Minneapolis Relationship Status: Cast away
Great and Powerful
Do you know where the city hall is? Odds are that the security guard or the receptionist will be able to direct you to the right office. (They get asked those kind of questions at least a hundred times a week. It's part of their job.) If you're afraid you'll freeze up, bring an index card with your question on it. Just walk right on in like the citizen you are and politely ask questions. It wouldn't hurt to dress for the kind of job you're looking for, just in case the city is hiring this month.
Euo will do!
Thorn, while you're on that course, start seeing somebody about the anxiety. There are ways to use CBT that can and will help you... and that course gives you the time to practice the tricks and learn to apply them in the day-to-day. smile

Oh... and try not to put it off <mock-glare> (I know exactly how tempting that is): it's scary opening yourself up to another... but, the psychologist/ therapist won't be seeing anything they haven't seen before, and they won't ridicule you. And, anybody who has in the past won't be there, except as demon-memories in the head. They can help with that. wink

edited 5th Nov '12 11:05:04 PM by Euodiachloris

"When all else failed, she tried being reasonable." ~ Pratchett, Johnny and the Bomb
 788 They Call Me Tomu, Mon, 5th Nov '12 11:51:56 PM Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Sureeeeendaaaa
I was seeing a therapist for a while. But A.) I don't feel like it was making any progress and B.) The bus schedule got fucked up and now I can't get there -_-;

Euo will do!
[up]There are always hills and troughs in therapy, mate. <hugs> It's a shame you weren't able to work through the trough thanks to that transport issue. sad

Getting hold of a therapist is hard enough, without having the travel map change on you. tongue
"When all else failed, she tried being reasonable." ~ Pratchett, Johnny and the Bomb
 790 SKJAM, Tue, 6th Nov '12 7:05:45 AM from Minneapolis Relationship Status: Cast away
Great and Powerful
Off today to network at the polling station, (network everywhere!), then to the VA hospital to get a veteran's ID card (because employers might ask for proof) and a bloggers' meeting tonight. Plus of course the usual search activities.
 791 Oh So Into Cats, Thu, 8th Nov '12 4:49:43 PM from The Sand Wastes Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
CANON!!
Which is more valuable, graduating with honors or a double major? or are both equally useless and I should just pick the one I want?
"Beware of the wolves. They were raised by wolves."

Eidolonomics: ~60.4k/100,000 words
@Cats: I'd say it depends on the type of degrees as well as which prospective jobs you have in mind. For example, political science and psychology would be good for someone wanting to get into federal law enforcement.

As for graduating with honors, I don't know.

Honours.

Because a double major just means you graduated with enough passing grades (like I did).

Also, Honours programs tend to take an extra year specifically because you're doing more in-depth stuff than a Bachelors (and in some cases, Honours also means you're halfway between a Bachelors and a Masters). In theory, Honours programs also tend to have better postgraduate placement initiatives when compared with graduate-level ones.

 794 Oh So Into Cats, Thu, 8th Nov '12 5:21:16 PM from The Sand Wastes Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
CANON!!
The two majors are math and linguistics. I really like math, I just suck at it, so I would have to stop taking math courses to keep my GPA up.
"Beware of the wolves. They were raised by wolves."

Eidolonomics: ~60.4k/100,000 words
Worth noting that you can go for Honours while doing a double major (or perhaps even Honours in both your majors, if you were so inclined).

Assuming you had the time and didn't mind the student loan, that is.

 796 Oh So Into Cats, Thu, 8th Nov '12 5:34:41 PM from The Sand Wastes Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
CANON!!
Well the original idea was honors with my double major, but the fact is, I'm just not smart enough to do both. I have to pick either linguistics major and honors, or double math/linguistics major. Those are my two choices, I'm too dumb to do the other choices.
"Beware of the wolves. They were raised by wolves."

Eidolonomics: ~60.4k/100,000 words
 797 Gabrael, Thu, 8th Nov '12 6:04:32 PM Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
A Polar Bear Named Gabrael
Depends on your program. Honors is worthless here. Double major here means you are getting two Bachelor degrees at the same time. I got two B As.

Other note, I have a job interview next week. Gotta love state mandated interviews! :D
[up][up] How much time would you be spending on either? Because unless you're planning on going for a research position of some kind, I'd actually recommend doing neither and going out to look for a job (because experience is better than either).

Okay, after rereading that suggestion, I feel like a dick. You might be studying longer because it'll give you a larger window in which to get a job...

[up] Good luck! I forgot to mention earlier, since I haven't a clue where you live/what your town is like, but my city's Chamber of Commerce runs a job placement program for graduates and is marketed specifically for small- to medium-sized businesses. Might be something worth looking into for you too!

Actually, that applies to everyone.

 799 Gabrael, Thu, 8th Nov '12 6:55:01 PM Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
A Polar Bear Named Gabrael
Regretfully my city doesn't do such things. There are only three charities who do that in town and I don't qualify for any of their programs. They only work on the high school/GED level. With my Masters, they won't touch me.
 800 Michael, Fri, 9th Nov '12 3:04:48 AM Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
So that's what this does
If you get called to two interviews, both of which can only take place on one time and place that means you can't get to both of them, how do you choose?

I've faced this a few times in my life and never felt that I made the right choice. Well, maybe except for once when I persuaded the second one to go on skype.
Balance - the original sixth sense.
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