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Job search strategy discussion thread:

 701 Oh So Into Cats, Sat, 20th Oct '12 7:32:32 PM from The Sand Wastes Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
[up]When... a degree can't get you those things.
"Beware of the wolves. They were raised by wolves."

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 702 Ira The Squire, Sat, 20th Oct '12 7:39:19 PM from No idea. Measuring speed
Phyrexian Dalek
Hence why I would suggest bending the truth a bit. While a bachelor is harder to hide, I'm planning to put in "research associate" in my resume instead of the PHD that I'm doing right now (when I finish) for these three (or so, hopefully) years, if I have to get out of research.
I AM A DALEK!!

The human body is obscene. It must be replaced!
 703 Oh So Into Cats, Sat, 20th Oct '12 7:49:24 PM from The Sand Wastes Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
I guess there's just no use for college graduates in the real world, huh?

edited 20th Oct '12 7:49:40 PM by ohsointocats

"Beware of the wolves. They were raised by wolves."

Eidolonomics: ~60.4k/100,000 words
 704 Gabrael, Sat, 20th Oct '12 8:16:05 PM from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Zombie Polar Bears!
There is a use. Most people just don't know how to use us well, so our talents and skills go unappreciated.

Most people also don't know how to use their degrees. It's just with everything continuing to fall deeper, most people can afford to be choosy for just the right person.

I've heard all sorts of stories how jobs that would normally only get 5-10 applicants are getting ten times that.
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx
 705 Oh So Into Cats, Sat, 20th Oct '12 8:18:19 PM from The Sand Wastes Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Then how do I use my useless degree?
"Beware of the wolves. They were raised by wolves."

Eidolonomics: ~60.4k/100,000 words
 706 Gabrael, Sat, 20th Oct '12 8:20:13 PM from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Zombie Polar Bears!
What is your degree? Major and Minor? Any projects? Language skills?

Gimmie what you have and I'll try and pop off a few ideas for ya.
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx
 707 Oh So Into Cats, Sat, 20th Oct '12 8:21:15 PM from The Sand Wastes Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
It's not done yet, but linguistics and math major. I'm "proficient" in French and have taken 4 semesters of Korean.
"Beware of the wolves. They were raised by wolves."

Eidolonomics: ~60.4k/100,000 words
 708 Gabrael, Sat, 20th Oct '12 9:00:58 PM from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Zombie Polar Bears!
Well, any marketing firm would love you as a stat cruncher. Maybe a salesman.

In fact, I would start looking into communications, trade, any info kinda firm that may have partnerships between Korea and you.

Hyundai is the only one I know off the top of my head.
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx
 709 Oh So Into Cats, Sat, 20th Oct '12 9:20:07 PM from The Sand Wastes Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Well honestly I thing now Samsung is the big one.

I guess the problem is that I am absolutely horrible with people. I wouldn't be able to sell a sandwich to a starving kid.

edited 20th Oct '12 9:28:52 PM by ohsointocats

"Beware of the wolves. They were raised by wolves."

Eidolonomics: ~60.4k/100,000 words
 710 Gabrael, Sat, 20th Oct '12 10:04:26 PM from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Zombie Polar Bears!
Then look into support staff, number crunching, accounts, anything like that. Math is a very applicable degree to almost any job you want. Korean is just an unusual language, it can probably open some untraditional doors for you.

You also may look into federal jobs. They love language skills. That and math? Not a bad set up. Even if the job doesn't require the language, being even conversational in more than one language gives you an edge.
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx
 711 SKJAM, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 1:26:28 PM from Minneapolis Relationship Status: Cast away
Great and Powerful
Translation services are also a good place to use bilinguality. When I did customer service at Target, it was a great help to have a number I could call for Italian or Korean or Hmong if I needed it (but usually just Spanish.)

It looks like I qualify for a special Veterans' Retraining AP grant, which will pay a year's college tuition in certain fields (including General Manager) if you're a military vet between 35 and 60 who's currently unemployed. That will get me a lot closer to finally finishing my Associate's!
[up][up][up] Anything I wanted to say has been covered. Though I will say that degrees do get you 'those things', they just won't do it by themselves.

So... does anybody know anything about creating texts/the industry that goes along with that?

I think I have found my true calling in life but I don't know how to pursue it.

Not sure what you're getting at here, but I've recently found that I both enjoy and am good at writing copy, and that it's a legitimate career. Is that what you're getting at?

 713 SKJAM, Wed, 24th Oct '12 2:05:54 PM from Minneapolis Relationship Status: Cast away
Great and Powerful
Met my veteran's rep today, he helped me spiff up my resume some more, and walked me through some nifty tricks one can do with the state job search website. Also, if my veteran's education thing goes through, that will qualify me for extended unemployment benefits. (I am still hoping I don't need them.)
 714 Barkey, Wed, 24th Oct '12 3:38:42 PM from Bunker 051 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
War Profiteer
I've found that my associates right now is a bonus. It's not a relevant degree to most things(counter-terrorism studies) and it's not a bachelors, so it's pretty close to going "Educated, but not a threat" to managers.
The AR-15 is responsible for 95% of all deaths each year. The rest of the deaths are from obesity and drone strikes.
 715 Oh So Into Cats, Thu, 25th Oct '12 5:46:09 AM from The Sand Wastes Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
[up][up][up]What is writing copy?

Perhaps it's something only I care about but most math textbooks are unintelligible and I think that needs to be fixed.
"Beware of the wolves. They were raised by wolves."

Eidolonomics: ~60.4k/100,000 words
 716 Tomoe Michieru, Thu, 25th Oct '12 9:15:19 AM from Huntsville AL
Samurai Troper
It's writing things like advertising blurb, informational pieces, etc. Primarily done for the Web.
 717 Oh So Into Cats, Thu, 25th Oct '12 11:56:01 AM from The Sand Wastes Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Yes that is definitely not what I mean at all.
"Beware of the wolves. They were raised by wolves."

Eidolonomics: ~60.4k/100,000 words
You meant fixing up textbooks? In which case you'd be looking at publishing companies. You'll also need to show that you have the skills required to fix up the textbooks themselves (which I'm assuming you have, since you realised that the textbooks needed fixing up).

It's one of those background choices that's probably a good place to start a career from actually.

 719 Gabrael, Fri, 2nd Nov '12 8:43:45 AM from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Zombie Polar Bears!
Well, getting more and more rejections though the reasons have changed, positionsbeing cancled due to budget cuts.

Whoot for blanket austerity measures!
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx
 720 SKJAM, Fri, 2nd Nov '12 10:03:11 AM from Minneapolis Relationship Status: Cast away
Great and Powerful
Had a guy at the job club yesterday who was all about how getting lots of rejections means that you're getting closer to the one "yes." As an alumnus of the job club, he might be right, or just really optimistic.

I got complimented on my good voice and cold script reading skills.
 721 Gabrael, Fri, 2nd Nov '12 10:45:53 AM from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Zombie Polar Bears!
I'm trying pretty hard to keep my enthusiasm up, but after I graduate I won't have anymore financial aid coming in. I only went for this Masters so quickly because I couldn't find a job with my two B As...blah...

I'll figure something out. Good news though, I just submitted another draft of my master's thesis for review so I'll have more time to devote to looking for jobs. As soon as I get that transcript with the official seal of graduation on it I can apply for more jobs.

So no reason to give up now.
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx
Euo will do!
[up]Keep plugging away, mate. <hugs> It's kind of soul destroying either getting outright rejections or, worse, those blank silences... but, if you ease off the grindstone, you never get flour. As one employment officer kept reminding us, once. wink

I've blatantly nicked that phrase. What? It wasn't nailed down, as far as I could see. evil grin
"When all else failed, she tried being reasonable." ~ Pratchett, Johnny and the Bomb
 723 Drunk Girlfriend, Fri, 2nd Nov '12 2:58:37 PM from Castle Geekhaven
Man, you guys need to move up here. Everywhere requires a BA right now, it's not even funny.
"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
 724 Barkey, Fri, 2nd Nov '12 3:31:15 PM from Bunker 051 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
War Profiteer
Here pretty much does too, for most things. I've seen a lot of good crappy jobs, but anything that involves you not living with your parents seems to require a BA. I just finally got really lucky.
The AR-15 is responsible for 95% of all deaths each year. The rest of the deaths are from obesity and drone strikes.
 725 Gabrael, Fri, 2nd Nov '12 4:53:10 PM from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Zombie Polar Bears!
Hugs to Euo!

I've been applying out of state some, the problem with that is very few jobs offer relocation payments and I don't have the money to just trapse across country and hope it'll be okay. I've been applying internationally as well. But again, just jobs that will pay me for now.

Ideally, my goal was to work a civilian job and either save up or transfer to a place where I could go for my Doctorate. It's still the plan, but I am struggling to figure out a contingency plan until then.
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx
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