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Job search strategy discussion thread:

 526 SKJAM, Tue, 25th Sep '12 5:22:54 PM from Minneapolis Relationship Status: Cast away
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Tomorrow at Employment Readiness class, it's resume critique day. Oh joy.
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Meh, I wouldn't sweat it SKJ. Your resume can't be worse than mine. A company that rejected me actually e-mailed me back a "more readable version" of mine. Lol!
It was an honor
 528 SKJAM, Wed, 26th Sep '12 4:27:38 AM from Minneapolis Relationship Status: Cast away
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I know it's not actually bad, especially as I have that nifty "Over a decade of experience" thing, but like many writers I am more thin-skinned about criticism than I should be.
 529 Gabrael, Wed, 26th Sep '12 4:52:34 AM from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Zombie Polar Bears!
I tailor my resume to the specific job I am applying for with the only exception being government jobs. Those use their own resume programs where you have to type in all your information, so it doesn't really matter.
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx
 530 SKJAM, Wed, 26th Sep '12 1:11:56 PM from Minneapolis Relationship Status: Cast away
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Yep. The reps teaching this class recommend having three to five basic resumes for fields you're interested in (changing the emphasis for the relevant skills and experience), that you hand out at job fairs or if you randomly find an opening—and then tweak them from there for specific job listings.

The homework for today suggested showing up in the sort of clothes you'd interview in—I was the only one wearing a tie. Some folks hadn't even gotten around to filling out a resume template!

And in other news, my business cards arrived. I got mixed up and paid for mine, but if you're broke and needing them, Insty-Prints will print you up a hundred or so free...with the catch that their logo will be on the back.
 531 Barkey, Thu, 27th Sep '12 6:51:24 PM from Bunker 051 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
War Profiteer
So I was cruising craigslist IT jobs just to get a feel for what the Industry standard is, and I saw my company advertising for the position that I am currently filling as a temp. I hope that's a good sign that there is availability and that I'm "in" and will be brought on as a permanent employee.
The AR-15 is responsible for 95% of all deaths each year. The rest of the deaths are from obesity and drone strikes.
 532 They Call Me Tomu, Thu, 27th Sep '12 6:56:55 PM Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Umai wa mo shindeiru
I keep wondering if I should just give up this Tax Preparer course and learn to program or something.

 533 Barkey, Thu, 27th Sep '12 7:20:12 PM from Bunker 051 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Learning to program wouldn't be terribly helpful out the gate, it's another one of those jobs that's hard to get into without experience, meaning it's hard to get your foot in the door.

Honestly, your best bet would be getting in at the ground level doing tech support or something, and trying to lateral into an application development section if your company has one, or using that prior IT experience to try and get into an appdev job eventually.

I'm going to try and take my 70-680 towards my MCITS certification. It's like 3 tests that you have to take to get it. My boss already said that the company would let me expense the testing cost despite being a temp, just like they would for a full employee, so I might as well knock it out.
The AR-15 is responsible for 95% of all deaths each year. The rest of the deaths are from obesity and drone strikes.
 534 SKJAM, Thu, 27th Sep '12 9:17:17 PM from Minneapolis Relationship Status: Cast away
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Even if you decide to go IT, do not give up the Tax Preparer course yet. It will come in handy later if only to do your own taxes when that becomes an issue. (Also, you can list it under "other accomplishments" on your resume if it's otherwise a bit thin.)
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I don't fucking get it. I always submit applications and never one phone call.

I go in dressed nice, I give a cover letter and a resume, I ask for the manager.

What the fuck do I need to do?!

Loli Hitler
[up]What kind of jobs are you applying for? How many applications have you sent and were you interviewed for any of them?

Gunpla is amazing!
Part time jobs.

Gamestop, some video stores, best buy, a few others.

And no interviews, no phone calls, nothing.

edited 28th Sep '12 1:33:46 AM by Thorn14

Loli Hitler
Go for volume. Send out 10-20 applications every day. Are there job agencies in your area? Send your resume to them. Job agencies are your best bet for entry-level and temp jobs. But don't rely solely on them. Keep sending out your applications every day.

The quality of your resume shouldn't matter much for temp jobs, but try to get someone you trust to vet your resume. I assume you don't have much experience, so go for a functional resume and emphasize your skills and attributes rather than your (lack of) experience.

 539 SKJAM, Fri, 28th Sep '12 6:52:28 AM from Minneapolis Relationship Status: Cast away
Great and Powerful
Also, check to see if your area has a job center or re-employment office run by the state. While people who qualify for unemployment are eligible for more help programs, the basic services are available for any legal resident. They should at least be able to help you with resume review, networking suggestions and interview practice.

Sometimes we have huge blind spots to stuff that's obvious to everyone else.
Gunpla is amazing!
Don't they charge you for that stuff?

Also wouldn't sending in an ass ton of applications just annoy them?

 541 Gabrael, Fri, 28th Sep '12 8:03:08 AM from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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They don't charge you if they're state. Most temp agencies don't charge because they get a cut for sending you in.

And don't send 10 aps to the same place. Apply for anything you even closely meet the reqs for. 10 different places a day. Look online at your state job site (google will show you) and usajobs.gov is one of the better federal sites. You can find clerical to cashier at bases to janitorial.

Even if they are not actively hiring, put an app in anyway. You never know where your place in line will be since most businesses hold aps for at least 6 months.
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx
Gunpla is amazing!
Well here's the thing. I don't have a car so I can't go out very far.

Also I'm not qualified for a lot of jobs (like fast food, my hands shake under pressure) and I am not good at manual labor.

I wouldn't mind working retail but I've tried applying for those and nothing.

I really want to work something I'm at least decent at.

edited 28th Sep '12 8:19:38 AM by Thorn14

 543 SKJAM, Fri, 28th Sep '12 8:39:30 AM from Minneapolis Relationship Status: Cast away
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No car is an issue for me too, I'm lucky to live in the Twin Cities where there's decent public transportation.

If you have physical challenges that limit the sorts of jobs you can do, then definitely get yourself over to the state job center or equivalent as they will have people who specialize in just that sort of situation. (In general, the more challenges you have to finding work, the more programs there are to help you find it.)
 544 Gabrael, Fri, 28th Sep '12 8:57:58 AM from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Zombie Polar Bears!
[up][up] they have search measures that narrow how far away from a certain zip code you can look for. Some even let you search from your home address. You never know unless you look. It's not like you have anything to loose.

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx
Gunpla is amazing!
Guess I'll have to look. What should I google? I don't really know of any of these around.

 546 Gabrael, Fri, 28th Sep '12 12:55:11 PM from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Zombie Polar Bears!
google: (your state) jobs

you can find a temp agency in your local phone book under either "temp agency" or "staffing agency"
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." -Groucho Marx
Gunpla is amazing!
Wow. I could walk to one of them.

 548 SKJAM, Fri, 28th Sep '12 4:17:24 PM from Minneapolis Relationship Status: Cast away
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Excellent! Getting a little exercise on your way there is a good idea. (Be sure to allow an extra fifteen minutes so you don't break a sweat.)

By the by, if anyone here is in the upper Midwest, or willing to relocate here, Linked In is the locally preferred professional networking website. Blue Cross/Blue Shield posts their jobs there first.
Gunpla is amazing!
No I mean, if its still open, it would be a 3 minute walk. [lol]

I don't know if they're still around though, and its likely closed by now and the weekend. I'll poke by tomorrow

 550 Barkey, Fri, 28th Sep '12 5:40:52 PM from Bunker 051 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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I finally got on Linked In today, after hearing all the hub bub about companies loving it so much. Not sure why.
The AR-15 is responsible for 95% of all deaths each year. The rest of the deaths are from obesity and drone strikes.
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