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 551 Balmung, Thu, 11th Oct '12 1:09:10 PM from Omaha, Nebraska Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
TsunderAI
Mint or Ubuntu should fit on a 1GB USB stick. 32-bit Mint Cinnamon (with all codecs) takes up 817 MB (64-bit takes up 801 MB, and Mate and KDE are noticably larger at about 900MB and XFCE is slightly smaller). The Debian version won't fit, though. Ubuntu should be about the same size as Mint, though, seeing as Mint is based on Ubuntu.
 552 Shaggy, Thu, 11th Oct '12 3:06:25 PM from Purgatory, ME
Kitty!
When I installed Mint, I used MATE x64 and it was just over the amount that a CD can hold.

Related, I once heard that Windows runs better in a VM, rather than running natively. Is this true?

edited 11th Oct '12 3:06:55 PM by Shaggy

If anyone in the thread wants to kidnap me, I don't mind. We'd just be in their van drinking Mountain Dew and watching MLP for days on end
 553 Balmung, Thu, 11th Oct '12 3:34:54 PM from Omaha, Nebraska Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
TsunderAI
MATE is actually bigger than Cinnamon by about 80 MB, but neither will fit on a CD, seeing as they're both bigger than 700 MB.

As for the Windows thing? Not a damn clue, but I thought MS got pissy and decided to disallow Vista and later from running in a VM.

edited 11th Oct '12 3:35:34 PM by Balmung

 554 pvtnum 11, Thu, 11th Oct '12 3:35:59 PM from Kerbin low orbit Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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The possibility existst that I have a crappy USB stick, since two out of two machines refused to do anything after POST when attempting to boot with it. I'll scrounge for another stick and see what happens. Both machines are 2009-era machines, so the ability to boot from USB sticks shoudn't be a problem at all.

Maybe I'll simply boot from a DVD, install on the secondary drive, and transfer the drive over physically.
Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.
 555 Balmung, Thu, 11th Oct '12 3:36:48 PM from Omaha, Nebraska Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
TsunderAI
What are you using to make the image?

I think LiLi should work, but sometimes these programs don't do it right.

If that doesn't do it, or the file has the wrong extention, this might do the job.

edited 11th Oct '12 3:45:32 PM by Balmung

 556 Morven, Thu, 11th Oct '12 4:28:50 PM from Seattle, WA, USA
Nemesis
That I recall, Microsoft says you have to have Professional or Ultimate in order to run it in a VM.
A brighter future for a darker age.
 557 pvtnum 11, Thu, 11th Oct '12 4:41:19 PM from Kerbin low orbit Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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^^ Thanks man, I'll give those a try and see what happens.
Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.
 558 pvtnum 11, Thu, 11th Oct '12 8:52:42 PM from Kerbin low orbit Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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Lili didn't work - booted from USB, followed by the USB stick light blinking (probably being accessed). Then nothing, for several minutes.

So either I suck, both laptops suck, or my USB stick sucks.
Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.
 559 Balmung, Thu, 11th Oct '12 9:01:45 PM from Omaha, Nebraska Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
TsunderAI
I had trouble with LiLi as well. May as well give the other program a shot. That's how I made my (working) LiveUSB.

Of course, it's also possible your USB drive has a problem, or that your laptop's got an issue, but I'd guess that it's the image not being formed properly.

edited 11th Oct '12 9:02:59 PM by Balmung

 560 pvtnum 11, Fri, 12th Oct '12 10:01:06 AM from Kerbin low orbit Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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Well, I decided to install Ubunti 12.04's installation directly onto my primary hard drive, on a small partition I have. Booted, was greeted with an install or test-drive option, so I installed it onto my second hard drive. Easy, right? Did all that, swapped the secondary drive into the junked machine (I say junked because the following are broken: left hinge, battery (completely incapable of holding a charge at ALL), internal wireless (so we have a D-Link USB nub) and CD-ROM drive (so we have an external drive, but apparently, you can't boot the machine using that).

Moment of truth: boot the junk machine. It fails to boot from the drive, but that was me forgetting to enable the HDD from BIOS. Redid that, boots up. I'm greeted with five options - Ubuntu, Ubuntu recovery, two mem-test options and a Windows 7 option, which puzzles me. Select Ubuntu. Fails out, it seems to think that I need the primary hard drive (that is sitting in my good machine) in order to work.

...sigh...

I boot my main machine. Does not give me the option of selecting Windows or the Ubuntu installation. and it tells me that the boot manager is missing (because that's in the second drive, sitting in the junk machine). Run Windows 7 install to wipe that partition out, problem solved.

It was a fun evening - now all I have to do is fix the install on the junk machine, hopefully without ripping the HDD out again.
Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.
 561 Balmung, Fri, 12th Oct '12 2:18:57 PM from Omaha, Nebraska Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
TsunderAI
If it still boots into Windows, you might be able to use one of the in-Windows installers some of these distros offer.

Otherwise, did you give Win32 Image Writer a crack as well?

edited 12th Oct '12 2:19:40 PM by Balmung

 562 pvtnum 11, Fri, 12th Oct '12 2:32:32 PM from Kerbin low orbit Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
linkup
No, I didn't try the other install option - Lili seemed pretty good and it did install it onto the drive - just that the boot manager is complaining about the drive swappage or something or other.

I'd have to install a windows OS to to an in-windows distro, wouldn't I? Unless I harvest the drive back into my machine for the purposes of redoing the install, or something like that.

But I'm going on a business trip for a week, so it'll wait until I get back.

edited 12th Oct '12 2:33:27 PM by pvtnum11

Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.
 563 Balmung, Fri, 12th Oct '12 6:59:12 PM from Omaha, Nebraska Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
TsunderAI
As I said, I did have problems with actually using boot USBs made with LiLi, despite the fact that the layout is more user friendly than the other software.
 564 Shaggy, Sat, 13th Oct '12 9:30:43 AM from Purgatory, ME
Kitty!
AMD is fucked. That's what they get for making shit like Bulldozer.
If anyone in the thread wants to kidnap me, I don't mind. We'd just be in their van drinking Mountain Dew and watching MLP for days on end
 565 Tam H 70, Sat, 13th Oct '12 9:43:15 AM from 合計虐殺 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
War ALWAYS changes. Man does not.
I don't know about that. I wouldn't buy an Nvidia card if you gave me the money to do so and a year's supply of hookers and blow to boot.

Oh, and here is more news on Windows Vista 2. Seems if you want to buy adult rated games like GTA IV and Heavy Rain on its new appstore ripoff, Microsoft says no. At least in the UK.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-8-marketplace-won-sell-games-like-grand-theft-auto-in-the-uk-but-what-about-the-us/

edited 13th Oct '12 9:58:17 AM by TamH70

 566 Shaggy, Sat, 13th Oct '12 9:49:36 AM from Purgatory, ME
Kitty!
Why not? The 660 is the best price per dollar card out right now.

Besides, this is because of Bulldozer, not because of buying ATi. Buying ATi is the only reason they're still in business.

edited 13th Oct '12 9:50:52 AM by Shaggy

If anyone in the thread wants to kidnap me, I don't mind. We'd just be in their van drinking Mountain Dew and watching MLP for days on end
 567 Tam H 70, Sat, 13th Oct '12 10:01:31 AM from 合計虐殺 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
War ALWAYS changes. Man does not.
AMD need to exit the dedicated chipset and CPU market posthaste. Bulldozer is only the first of its CPU designs that will fail. Their APU business isn't all it's cracked up to be either.
 568 Tangent 128, Sat, 13th Oct '12 10:51:19 AM from Virginia Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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I never got how people can be so heated in opinion over CP Us...
Conversation is a contact sport.
 569 Tam H 70, Sat, 13th Oct '12 11:08:29 AM from 合計虐殺 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
War ALWAYS changes. Man does not.
I have dumped on both Intel and AMD in the past. Both have a long and glorious history of stuffing things up royally. Intel with their space heaters (otherwise known as Prescott cpus), and AMD when they went to that daft as a brush scheme of lying about their cpu speed in their names. Folks thinking they were getting a 2.2Ghz cpu were actually getting a 1.8Ghz cpu instead.
 570 Nohbody, Sat, 13th Oct '12 5:12:14 PM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
On a tangential note, I've been looking for a replacement for my CPU cooler fan on my Athlon x2 7850, as the current one is making grinding noises (which I first attributed to my PSU, given that I knowingly was using a cheapy unit; served as a good excuse to get a better one, in any case tongue ). Why is it so hard to find a decently quiet 80mm fan whose ability to move air isn't in the region of "faint breeze"? sad

edited 13th Oct '12 5:12:32 PM by Nohbody

 571 Balmung, Sat, 13th Oct '12 5:33:57 PM from Omaha, Nebraska Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
 572 Nohbody, Sat, 13th Oct '12 5:40:38 PM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
^ I did say "decently quiet", not "silent". The grinding sound from the current fan (Rosewill RCX-Z80-AL) does stop after a while of running, and when it does it probably gets pretty close to its rated 22 dB ("probably" because I don't have a meter to check, I just know that I can't really hear it when it's not grinding), which is fine with me, while still able to move 33 CFM.

I'm tempted to just get another Z80 fan and stick it on the existing heat sink, but if that starts grinding as well it would kinda defeat the purpose.
 573 Balmung, Sat, 13th Oct '12 6:38:47 PM from Omaha, Nebraska Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
TsunderAI
It probably also has something to do with the bearings that work at those higher RPMs. They're probably just plain less quiet than the ones that can cut the mustard for a slower fan.
 574 Shaggy, Sat, 13th Oct '12 10:21:28 PM from Purgatory, ME
Kitty!
I'm getting somewhat high temps when gaming. The fans got super loud, so I opened up the case and pointed a desk fan at my guts.

My dad helped me put this together, and I'm seriously wondering whether he put thermal paste on the CPU or not.
If anyone in the thread wants to kidnap me, I don't mind. We'd just be in their van drinking Mountain Dew and watching MLP for days on end
 575 Balmung, Sat, 13th Oct '12 11:38:03 PM from Omaha, Nebraska Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
TsunderAI
You should hear my laptop's fan screaming when playing games. It seems to run hotter in Linux than under Windows, and the fan is working mighty hard to keep up.
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