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Deadlock Clock: Jul 22nd 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#1: Jun 4th 2012 at 12:55:15 PM

I'm not sure what to say. There's all of six examples and eight wicks, it's not particularly clear what's going on, and I'm not sure if this is tropeworthy as it currently stands.

Also seems to have not gone through YKTTW. I think there may be something salvageable among this pile, but we need some serious help here. I think this needs some serious help, probably involving going back to You Know That Thing Where to be redesigned.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2: Jun 4th 2012 at 1:14:44 PM

The trope seems to be that people turn their backs to items that should be watched (e.g to a door to a dark room in a serial killer movie) even though it's better to keep the eyes pointed there.

Agree that as it currently it's nigh incomprehensible. The name is rather misleading, too.

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spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#3: Jun 4th 2012 at 1:17:16 PM

The name says it might be People Sit On Chairs, but it has the opposite problem. What's going on?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#4: Jun 4th 2012 at 1:22:48 PM

No crosswicking, not enough examples, an ambiguous name and a badly-written description.

Cut (and make the note on the discussion page, please) and send back to YKTTW.

Also, [up] Not Thriving is not the opposite of People Sit On Chairs.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#5: Jun 4th 2012 at 1:25:41 PM

I have no problem with doing a proper YKTTW of this, but I'd like to figure out exactly what the trope is here, and then I'll set up the YKTTW after.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#6: Jun 4th 2012 at 1:28:55 PM

[up]People turning their back on things that they should better keep their eyes upon.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
spacemarine50 Since: Mar, 2012
#7: Jun 4th 2012 at 1:52:30 PM

If this stays, it needs a less ambiguous name.

abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#8: Jun 4th 2012 at 3:42:30 PM

[up][up] That's not what the description says. It's talking about when someone is freaked out so they cautiously walk backwards, and then usually get surprised by something because they aren't looking where they're going.

edited 4th Jun '12 3:43:10 PM by abk0100

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#9: Jun 4th 2012 at 11:44:33 PM

I think the Walking Backwards into something scary is the trope, rather than the getting scared in the first place part.

It is a trope, but sure needs help. It's more common than the page implies. A visit to YKTTW might help. I'm not sure the name is all that incomprehensible, though. Wider than the trope, perhaps, but that usually causes misuse, rather than underuse.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#10: Jul 19th 2012 at 6:31:07 AM

Clocking due to lack of activity.

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#11: Jul 20th 2012 at 5:47:06 AM

(Aside: why is Not Thriving a blue link for spacemarine but a red link for Septimus?)

I decided to look in the history to see who originally posted this so we could PM them about sending it to YKTTW. But it turned up only five edits going back to December. So I went to the Internet Archive to determine how old this actually was.

Um, guys... we may have a bit of a problem.

Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#12: Jul 20th 2012 at 11:30:18 AM

[up]Can you be more specific about what problem you mean? I mean, it's not like there's only one to choose from. :)

I agree that this is (or should be) about walking backwards into something scary, and that why you're walking backwards shouldn't matter. The bit about the "soldier or police officer" kind of makes that clear—although it's not very clearly written.

I recommend fixing up the description to be more clear, cross-wicking, especially to related tropes like Don't Sneak Up on Me Like That!, possibly think about more indexes (if it's often played for laughs, should it go on Comedy Tropes?), and maybe send it to YKTTW to get examples.

I think the name is the least of its problems.

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MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#13: Jul 22nd 2012 at 3:04:41 AM

[up]That made a lot more sense in my head. What I mean is, this isn't some new page thrown out there by some noob that doesn't know about YKTTW, this has been around since early 2008, right before The Great Crash. That means I don't think it's as simple as "cut and re-YKTTW", especially since the oldest version in the Internet Archive had a discussion page attached to it that has been lost to the ages, which might have contained a YKTTW link lost to aforementioned Great Crash.

Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#14: Jul 22nd 2012 at 3:12:57 AM

[up]It was apparently launched with zero examples. I'm pretty sure Three Rules Of Three existed even back then. It may not be a new page launched by a noob, but I think it's probably a page launched by a noob, with or without YKTTW. With something performing this poorly, I don't think mere age should be a deterrent to us sending it back to YKTTW, if that seems to be the best option.

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#15: Jul 27th 2012 at 10:00:00 AM

We can send a page back to YKTTW regardless of age. If it had no wicks to start, it's a minor miracle it ever got any.

This thread has an expired clock, are we going to do something here?

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abk0100 Since: Aug, 2011
#16: Jul 27th 2012 at 10:32:50 AM

I'll take it to YKTTW if you guys want.

Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#17: Jul 27th 2012 at 12:36:51 PM

[up] We seem to have a strong consensus to (cut-and-)YKTTW—the only question about that option has been answered in the affirmative: yes, age doesn't matter. So please do.

edit: tyop

edited 27th Jul '12 12:37:17 PM by Xtifr

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
Ravenous Sophovore
#18: Sep 21st 2012 at 11:14:23 AM

Stale with an expired clock. Locking.

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