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Is there any aspect of TV tropes that seeks to identify the first documented use of a trope? (I'm new here)
Ur Example. It's notoriously difficult to pin down, though, and the possibility of an Unbuilt Trope can make it complicated, so we don't usually bother working too hard to figure it out.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
There's also Trope Maker, for the first clear example of the full trope. The two may overlap but need not be the same.
sick of it allTrope Maker and Trope Namer is often the best we can do, and even that doesn't include when it was an Unbuilt Trope. To be honest, most Ur Examples are pretty much lost to history (though if we can dig them up or prevent them from being so, all the better), and it's a combination of factors that get someone noticed. For example, in Japan, there were rock bands that dressed in drag or costumes as early as the 60s or 70s, when David Bowie and Kiss among many others started influencing the idea of rock in Japan. There was the late Kiyoshi Imawano and his one of a kind appearance and approach to music. There was Flower Travelling Band that brought the psychedelic idea of "opening your mind to new experience." Opening the 80s, there were heavy metal bands starting up, and there was also Tomoyasu Hotei and BOOWY experimenting with the idea of visual spectacle at shows - along with tons of people who wanted to Follow the Leader. Around the same time BOOWY got started, a couple of young Kiss fans in Chiba started a band called Noise. Which was Exactly What It Says on the Tin, and combined Hard Rock / Heavy Metal with visual spectacle and aggressive attention-getting. Noise eventually became X, and Yoshiki Hayashi became the Trope Maker and Trope Namer for Visual Kei with their first promotions as a band, originally calling it "visual shock, " and others soon started calling them and their Follow The Leaders (as well as BOOWY's and Buck Tick's and all of the others who ended up doing basically variants on the same idea all at once) "Visual Kei." In its own way, it's kind of unfair: the true Ur Example of what would become Visual Kei is long since lost to time (it was probably somewhere in the 60s or 70s, the first time a rock musician decided to mime David Bowie or Kiss or thought dressing up would get more attention), and even a lot of the other Trope Makers have been (Visual Kei bands didn't start getting catalogued seriously until Visu Navi debuted in the late 90s - there's a lot of bands from the early 80s and early to mid 90s that probably ended up Lost Forever with no one knowing they ever existed, much less what happened to their members - Buck-Tick and the Extasy Records bands were actually the exception in earning enough fame to be remembered by at least some fans and lasting long enough to make it into a time when it was becoming far less easy to be Lost Forever). And the reasons they didn't get the recognition they deserved were not necessarily anything bad - they were just maybe not the loudest, not the most willing to court media attention, etcetera. Really, it does all come down to either fame (or to having the loudest fans if not the most), a good bit of luck, and timing.
edited 21st May '12 1:46:03 PM by AGroupie
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