The description is bare bones and isn't quite clear on the minimum requirements beyond "weapons having phallic symbolism", the title seems more fitting as a complement for Or Are You Happy To See Me, there are only barely above 30 wicks and 40 inbounds, most of the wicks themselves don't fit the title itself even when they fit the "weapons of phallic symbolism" concept, and the on-article examples aren't that much better — Xena Warrior Princess's Gender-Inverted Trope example ("yonic" instead of "phallic"), in particular, is pure speculation.

Wick check (out of 34 wicks)

Guns as phallic symbolism, but doesn't fit the "gun in my pocket" phrase:

• Beyond The Valley Of The Dolls: Man shoves a gun into a sleeping woman's mouth and shoots.
• Bride And Undertaker: "Squickily implied with Molly's fondling of Rythym and Rhyme" seems as far from "gun in my pocket" as you can while staying within the spirit of the trope's bounds.
• Dystopia: Penis-based nickname.
• I'm Gonna Git You Sucka: Explaining villains having Big Freaking Gun with "it's a phallic thing."
• Insistent Terminology: gun-as-"primary sexual characteristic" pothole.
• Melody Time: Guns spontaneously fire off as a euphemism for their male wielder's sexual arousal.
• Punk Rock: Pothole for "Sex Pistols".
• W40k Tropes A To H

Sword or some other weapon instead of gun/firearm:

• Its Always Time: Penis transforms into sword.
• Marie Antoinette
• Ho Yay/Music
• Romeo and Juliet
• Zombie Panic In Wonderland: rockets.

Zero Context Examples:

• Bonnie and Clyde
• Tank Girl

Unclear:

• Despicable Me: Vaguely worded pothole in Getting Crap Past the Radar entry.
• Boobs Ahoy: Example is vaguely worded, and links to the relevant strips are broken.
• The Three Caballeros: Sounds like shoehorning.
• Yu-Gi-Oh!: Not an actual weapon, just "monster has a second neck and head sprouting from his groin area".

Proposals

• Rename to something more indicative. Preliminary suggestions: Weapons As Freudian Symbols, Weapons As Phallic Symbols, Freudian Weapons, Phallic Weapons.
• Flesh out the description for better clarity over the definition.
• Clean up examples from shoehorning.

edited 11th May '12 8:24:43 AM by MarqFJA

See also Compensating for Something, which last I checked was about weapons in general.

Compensating for Something has been made strictly in-universe, and pertains to implications of "he's got a small penis, so he's trying to compensate for/hide it with his large, often-phallic weapon".

We just had Sword As Penis in YKTTW with the conclusion that it duplicated Gun in My Pocket. I created the redirect Weapon As Penis while merging examples. If we want the primary title to be something obvious and boring, how about we swap 'em?

I don't see any obvious improvements to be made to the description, but maybe someone else is cleverer than me.

edited 12th May '12 9:09:10 AM by elwoz

Weapon As Penis is quite awkward-sounding.

Just call it Phallic Weapon then.

Bumpity!

Phallic Weapon might be a good rename, but, the description is way too vague and general. It sounds like All Weapons Are Phallic, but that is way too common. Plus, it also includes any instance where a weapon meets groin in any way (see trope image for example). Also intrudes Or Are You Just Happy to See Me?. Needs a lot of work. Also too much Double Entendre.

edited 22nd May '12 2:41:19 PM by spacemarine50

How about Weapon Pallicization? Or the gender-neutral Weapon Sexualization?

I think Weapon As Phallic Symbol is how they'd call this in academic lit crit land. Unfortunately, I don't know a good word that means "either a phallic or a yonic symbol" so while I like the idea of making the trope name gender-neutral, I have no suggestion (and I think Weapon Sexualization doesn't work, that sounds more like Cargo Ship with the weapon).

edited 22nd May '12 3:19:23 PM by elwoz

Then make Weapon As Yonic Symbol a redirect. We already do that with more than a few other tropes, and AFAIK phallic symbolism is more predominant in fiction for some reason.

Bump for votes.

Calling crowner in favor of renaming and fixing the description.

Okay, do we do an alt-titles crowner now, or do we need to discuss the definition first?

edited 16th Jun '12 5:31:19 PM by MarqFJA

Should we define it as "all weapons are phallic", or only include invoked/egregious examples? Option A is too common to trope.

edited 16th Jun '12 6:38:10 PM by spacemarine50

Not all weapons are phallic. Include examples like those currently on the page.

But, quoted from the page: "Guns, cannons, swords, daggers... they're all penises.

After all, most of them are vaguely phallic (any object longer than it is wide = phallic)"

In short, everything. If it's false, description need to be fixed.

Yes, we must fix the description.

Guns, cannons, swords, and daggers (as well as spears, too) do have good reasons for the phallicization: All have the same similarity in shape to a penis, the former two allow subtle allusions to ejaculation, and the latter three provide ample oppurtunities for sex-like thrusting and penetration jokes/insults/puns.

Of course, I do agree that the description still needs overhaul to clarify the trope definition.

edited 18th Jun '12 1:07:48 PM by MarqFJA

"Any object longer than it's wide is a phallic symbol" is, I think, an intentional exaggeration of the trope for comedy value. That said, it's a common exaggeration; I first heard it, verbatim, from my 10th grade English teacher, regarding the Green Knight's axe. (One does not normally think of an axe as a phallic symbol, but in that story it most certainly is.)

edited 19th Jun '12 12:14:01 AM by elwoz

I feel like this trope has been infected by Freud, and All Men Are Perverts. Description is saying: "guns are (sexual, phallic, etc)...", which is distracting and not neutral. If the description is intact, I'd rename it All Weapons Are Phallic or sexual. But, I want the description fixed, and a better name. Another example here.

edited 19th Jun '12 1:18:06 AM by spacemarine50

Crowners swapped.

Calling crowner in favor of Phallic Weapon.

We need to fix the description and rename. Make it so.

edited 2nd Aug '12 7:52:01 AM by ccoa

Those who supported the rename should look to the discussion of this page's supertrope, Freud Was Right. I recommend renaming that page to Phallic Symbol.

edited 2nd Aug '12 12:17:13 PM by Routerie

Description is basically saying all weapons are this, with every possible explanation, no matter how iffy they are. Needs a narrow definition to avoid People Sit On Chairs.