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Rename (alt names crowner 5/14): It Got Worse get usage counts

This trope seems quite abused. The trope page clearly says: "To qualify for this trope, a terrible situation must have some final perfect push over the edge". However, it is widely used whenever anything, well, gets worse. It also seems to become a Pothole Magnet for whenever anything bad happens or something seems worse than something else, making it an annoying Verbal Tic. Just a few examples.

And so on, and so forth. I suggest changing the trope name to something more descriptive and less tempting, like "Bad to Worse".

edited 4th May '12 10:35:25 AM by Thainen

 
I agree, although the wicks will be a huge task.

 3 peccantis, Fri, 4th May '12 3:47:05 PM Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
the flies will find you
Yes, rename needed due to egregious misuse as Stock Phrase and for Sink Holes.
before the darkness arrives
 4 tdgoodrich 1, Fri, 4th May '12 4:13:17 PM from Atlanta Relationship Status: Californicating
Here Is Your Throat Back, Thanks For The Loan
I can take care of some of the wicks for correct usage, but there's going to be probably over half if not more than that as misuse in the wicks. Most of the usage on the wiki is as a Troper Tic.

[down]The latter would make for a good short-term transitional solution while whatever unlucky saps (possibly including myself) get stuck sifting those 6537 (incl. redirects) wicks fix it.

edited 4th May '12 5:13:15 PM by tdgoodrich1

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop

"I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
 5 bwburke 94, Fri, 4th May '12 5:08:06 PM from Massachusetts Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
PULL TO OPEN
Obvious redlinking is obvious, whether it's a cut or a This Troper-style redlinking.
I have an avatar now. Avatars are cool.
I think this is the reverse, and exactly the same problem, as I Got Better. That got renamed to Unexplained Recovery and handled in Special Efforts. I'd suggest doing the same with this.

Edit: Personally I don't need a wick check on this, but I'm rather certain I've seen a lot of useless potholes.

edited 5th May '12 10:11:47 AM by Feather7603

The Internet misuses, abuses, and overuses everything.
 7 Shadow Hog, Sat, 5th May '12 10:16:19 AM from Earth Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
Avatar by Neoriceisgood
Doesn't help that the trope that sounds like it should be the inverse, It Gets Better, is actually more about a show getting better than the situation contained therein.

Not the reason it's in here, of course, but I wanted to mention that while we were on the subject.
Moon
[up]That's another one I've seen lots of potholes to. However, I think they're more often actually correct. There's still probably a fair amount of misuse there too, though.
The Internet misuses, abuses, and overuses everything.
Hmm, how about renaming the trope to something like "From Bad To Worse" (so the examples added will be more to the point) , but leaving It Gets Worse and It Got Worse alive as redirects? This saves any wick and pothole work, while decreasing unfitting examples...

edited 5th May '12 5:19:24 PM by SS13

 10 tdgoodrich 1, Sat, 5th May '12 5:43:29 PM from Atlanta Relationship Status: Californicating
Here Is Your Throat Back, Thanks For The Loan
[up]Of concern is its use as a Pothole Magnet/Troper Tic.
"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop

"I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
I did a quick random check (too lazy to type it up, and by the way, is there an easy way to do that without too much list-editing?), and most (70%?) potholes are when the situation seems good but gets worse. Leaving it as a redirect will not solve that problem, as the phrase indicates that that's okay use. We don't want that.
The Internet misuses, abuses, and overuses everything.
Dragon Writer
So the definition is basically a Calamity Coup De Grace? Yeah, big surprise that it gets misused for any time stuff starts going (more) downhill.
 13 Septimus Heap, Tue, 8th May '12 7:38:12 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
I was always thinking that this was something problematic - looks like full Stock Phrase suckitude.

Are we good for a rename and-then-redlink crowner?

 14 ccoa, Tue, 8th May '12 2:53:03 PM from the Sleeping Giant
With Mod Hat On
Crowner stitched to thread.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 15 Troacctid, Tue, 8th May '12 7:15:08 PM from California
I believe the pre-existing term is From Bad to Worse.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
I was wondering why this wasn't in TRS after seeing it potholed all over the place.

 17 ccoa, Mon, 14th May '12 10:33:37 AM from the Sleeping Giant
With Mod Hat On
Calling crowner in favor of renaming and faux redlinking It Got Worse.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 18 ccoa, Mon, 14th May '12 10:51:19 AM from the Sleeping Giant
With Mod Hat On
Old crowner out, new crowner in.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 19 lu 127, Thu, 17th May '12 2:47:00 AM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Calling crowner.
小さく揺れた向日葵
 20 Septimus Heap, Thu, 17th May '12 3:45:33 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
[up]Did the page, subpages and indexes, as well as the notes on Renamed Tropes and the FAQ thread.

 21 ccoa, Wed, 20th Jun '12 6:05:45 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Bumping for votes.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 22 Septimus Heap, Wed, 20th Jun '12 6:15:31 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Christmas worms
[up]Ahem...crowner's already called. It just needs to be done (with the wicks)

 23 lu 127, Wed, 20th Jun '12 9:32:53 AM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
With Mod Hat On
There is now a Special Efforts thread to remove the sinkholes. All help is welcome.

Locking.
小さく揺れた向日葵
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Alternative Titles: It Got Worse
14th May '12 10:50:08 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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