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What to do with VideoGame/Monster Girl Quest (P5 only, please):

Still not sure how these threads are working. But for the time being, I'd like to keep this discussion between the P5.

Monster Girl Quest is a porn game, there's no question about that. The battle mechanic involves the main character fighting off monster girls who are trying to rape him.

But the thing is, not only is the plot excellent, the porn is not. It's actually rather horrifying, most of the time. I can't imagine a giant scorpion girl was ever intended as anything but creepy as hell.

This isn't like Fate/stay night. FSN got an anime adaptation which removed the sex scenes *, and the plot still made perfect sense. Anything like that usually gets a free pass from me.

Monster Girl Quest makes no sense without the sex scenes. I'm sure someone could find a way to remove them without damaging the plot too much, but it would require major rewrites. But again, no one plays this game for the sex, because the sex is freaky creepy.

So, what to do? The page hasn't caused any problems so far, but I'd be willing to lock the page if that's what it takes to keep it. Of course, if everyone else disagrees with me, I'm not going to raise a fuss. It's got it's own wiki that the page can be shoved off to if we have no other choice.

This review summarizes what I just said from a slightly different perspective, and is a pretty good summary of what the fanbase in general thinks.
 2 Martello, Thu, 26th Apr '12 10:54:34 AM from Black River, NY
Hammer of the Pervs
My first impression on initial research was that it's irredeemable, but given your points I'll give it a second look. I'll get back to you later on after work today.
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 3 Martello, Thu, 26th Apr '12 2:57:26 PM from Black River, NY
Hammer of the Pervs
And no, it's porn. Do I find any of the multitude of explicit images a GI search came up with arousing? Of course not. But I'm sure plenty of people out there do, the same people who like tentacle porn. This is just monster girl porn. I vote devil-head.
"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.

This post was thumped by the Stick of Off-Topic Thumping.
Stay on topic, please.


 
 5 Martello, Thu, 26th Apr '12 4:42:13 PM from Black River, NY
Hammer of the Pervs
nevermind

edited 26th Apr '12 5:51:35 PM by Martello

"Did anybody invent this stuff on purpose?" - Phillip Marlowe on tequila, Finger Man by Raymond Chandler.

Please see The Rules . This is a warning that this post is the sort of thing that will get you suspended.

 7 lu 127, Fri, 27th Apr '12 9:00:11 AM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
With Mod Hat On
When the thread title says P5 only, it means P5 only. Let's respect their request, please. If you have something you feel you must say, use the Page Restoration Petitions thread.

edited 4th May '12 6:54:53 AM by lu127

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 8 Komodin, Sat, 28th Apr '12 2:33:00 PM from Somewhere in Windy Hill Zone Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Sonic Wiki Curator
Hm, to be honest, I'm not too sure we can keep without, at the very minimum, a cleanup and some curation. From what I've seen, and heard from the two of you, this appears to be rather pornographic.
 9 Meeble, Fri, 4th May '12 9:02:41 PM from the ruins of Granseal
likes the cheeses.
From the images I've been able to find, it looks like this game is definitely trying to play to the "shotacon" fetish. I'm not seeing much reason not to straight up cut it at this time.
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The protagonist is of undetermined age, but over sixteen and under twenty-one. Probably eighteen. His appearance varies depending on which artist is drawing at the moment.

There are reasons to cut this, that other people have noted (obviously, I'm looking for a solution that doesn't end with that). Shota content isn't one of them.
 11 Meeble, Fri, 4th May '12 9:44:12 PM from the ruins of Granseal
likes the cheeses.
Perhaps I'm mistaking fan art for official art, then? If anyone can point out some official artwork that clears up the "identifiable pre-pubescent" issue, I'd appreciate it.
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Only found two SFW pics (in h-game tradition, there are basically zero pics of the guy). One is from the artist who draws everyone like that and the other is just his face. So I doubt that's helpful.

Again, there are plenty of things to discuss about this game without worrying about the art style. I mean, if that's your only gripe with it, then sure, but it doesn't seem that way.

edited 4th May '12 9:54:18 PM by Discar

 13 Komodin, Fri, 4th May '12 10:04:39 PM from Somewhere in Windy Hill Zone Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Sonic Wiki Curator
Eh, the art style doesn't bother me; it's that, just by Googling images pertaining to this work with the Safe Search Filter set on Moderate, I can't find a single SFW image for it...
 14 Meeble, Fri, 4th May '12 10:08:29 PM from the ruins of Granseal
likes the cheeses.
It's not the only problematic element of the game no, but the issue of the protagonist's apparent age would definitely make a difference between voting to straight up cut, or to look at a potential alternate solution.

I'll continue researching this, for now.
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This post has been thumped with the mod stick. This means knock it off.
Instead, I have learned a horrible truth of existence...some stories have no meaning.
So the game got three devilhead votes (I didn't vote, conflict of interest), and was closed up with recommended action being "cut." Is that the final consensus, or were the other two still researching?
 17 Meeble, Sun, 6th May '12 6:35:38 AM from the ruins of Granseal
likes the cheeses.
I voted devil head, but didn't close it out since I wasn't sure what disposition the others who voted wanted to take (cut versus clean and lock.)

For what it's worth, the amount of porn content as well as the nagging issue of potential for playing to the "shota" fetish made me ok with the cutting option, so I don't take issue with whoever closed it out.
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 18 lu 127, Mon, 7th May '12 5:30:04 AM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Just to make sure (because I realised the thread is still open), you're certain this should be cut, right?
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 19 Komodin, Mon, 7th May '12 5:32:37 AM from Somewhere in Windy Hill Zone Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Sonic Wiki Curator
I"m certain it should be. The sheer amount of pornographic is too much to ignore.
 20 Meeble, Mon, 7th May '12 5:42:44 AM from the ruins of Granseal
likes the cheeses.
Yes.
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 21 lu 127, Mon, 7th May '12 5:46:36 AM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Okay, making sure because unlike most other cuts, this one has a lot of material on our wiki and 3000 inbounds. Would like to preserve the latter, but I don't see how. Cutlisting.
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 22 Komodin, Mon, 7th May '12 5:49:18 AM from Somewhere in Windy Hill Zone Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Sonic Wiki Curator
3, 000 inbounds... meh? I hope we don't get backdrafted behind this...
 23 lu 127, Mon, 7th May '12 5:50:33 AM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Wait, somebody said it's based on The Monster Girl Encyclopedia, which we decided to keep. Is that true? If it is, we could redirect it there and lock the redirect.
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 24 ccoa, Mon, 7th May '12 6:10:00 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Looking at The Monster Girl Encyclopedia, that's not a page I expect to stick around much longer.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 25 lu 127, Mon, 7th May '12 6:12:21 AM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
It's already been voted and decided to be kept (I was the one who flagged it).
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