Despite the title, this trope more or less about abusing violent force to get what you want. This seems like a pretty widespread trope, but it's only linked to in 57 articles and has only 38 inbounds.
Might I suggest a rename to Screw The Rules I Have Power, or something akin to it? Something tells me the title referring to something specific might have something to do with its problem.
Agreed, the trope name makes it feels like the trope should be about having a super weapon (IE the Death Star or a really big bomb) so you can do what ever you want instead of being stronger then everyone else and enforcing your will through violence. My suggestion is "Screw the Rules, I have Power" then dividing the examples into two categories. Category one would involve super weapons (such as the Death Star or really big bombs) then category two would involve more conventional means (such as Rome and it's armies).
'...this is known as the "Argumentum ad Baculum" or the Appeal to Force , whose logic goes essentially thus: "I'm right, and if you disagree, I beat you up."...'
If this is supposed to be about the logical fallacy, which is what the description is suggesting here, we might want to simply call it Appeal to Force. Or at least use that as a starting place for brainstorming.
(If it's not supposed to be about the logical fallacy, we might want to edit the description just a tad.)
eta: Hmm, Appeal to Force is a blue-link...not quite sure what that is at the other end of the link, though. May need further investigation.
Should we maybe just merge it into the existing Appeal to Force page? I'm having a hard time seeing the difference, and I'm pretty sure that technically counts as a rename (since we only had a single-prop crowner).
I think the name is very misleading, and the underuse argument is strong. This is a very common trope. We could have a rename crowner while we decide what happens with the Appeal to Force page.
(I'm starting to think that it might be too confusing to have a Useful Notes page and an actual trope share the same name, but we can deal with that once we decide for sure whether this should be renamed.)
Not only a double-snowclone, but far too long.
I don't know. It might be best to have all our Useful Notes pages on logical fallacies be consistent. Maybe the path of least resistance is calling this something else. Maybe something like Might Wins Arguments?
Fifty seven wicks is hardly a cause for alarm considering the minimum is fourteen. If you think there should be more examples take it to Special Efforts or Trope Talk. This page does not need repairing.
Modified Ura-nage, Torture Rack
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Single Proposition: Screw The Rules I Have A Nuke
8th Jun '12 11:46:48 AM