Real Life sections on the wiki are kept as long as they don't become a problem. If you find an article with such problems, report it here. If it's really bad, the entire section may have to be removed. But hey, if someone feels like cleaning it up, it might be saved.
If you think an article should be filed under No Real Life Examples, Please!, then this thread is the place to discuss it. State the reasons and add it to the crowner.
Apollo was a Pretty Boy. So was Narcissus. I could probably dig up half a dozen other legendary or mythological examples from before the Renaissance if I bothered.
It might need a TRS or Example Repair/Removal Work, but no cutting. Cutting where tropes are involved mean they can not -cannot- be saved. At all. Those are usually ones posted without going through YKTTW and just tossed up, like Hyper Mode a few weeks back. (It was Same, but More, and had only two examples, which those familiar with the works said at least one was wrong.)
Broken Ace: It's literally half a villain trope, and it's real life section... well, it needs work. At the very least the general examples need booting, plus there's the discussion/wall of text on Hollywood stars that seem to be doing great, then bam!
Tyra Banks is mentioned, and her description seems to point to type 1. (RL person probably called a villain). Patton's entry is arguing (and I'm not touching that one -cautious editing). Tiger Woods seems more of a fallen hero then a broken ace.
Hamilton, Walker, Jackson, Hemingway might qualify for type 2.
edited 18th Oct '13 10:49:03 PM by Candi
Your experiences aren't universal, your preferences aren't universal, and your opinions don't trump anyone else's just because they're
Pretty Boy needs the contextless RL examples excised - the only examples I would consider worth noting there are for actors that often play them. As for @1952, that's just wrong.
Right Wing Militia Fanatic: Eh, I could go either way.
ValuesDissonance.Real Life is a long, long … long list of things that are judged differently between different places or time periods. As with all Values Dissonance example pages, Conversation in the Main Page abounds. Demonstration of relevance in fiction, media or storytelling: None.
I suggest a cut. A list of cultural value differences between any two places or time periods on the planet not only has by its nature the potential to grow infinitely, it also has nothing to do with the wiki's mission.
As a side note, many of the entries are not actually instances of Values Dissonance, but Cross-Cultural Kerfluffle (or occasionally Cross Temporal Kerfluffle, if we had such a trope). For example, that swastikas evoke different associations post-Nazis than they did pre-Nazis, or that they continue to be considered symbols of luck in India even today, is not evidence of Values Dissonance.
It's perfectly possible to admire building a cannon to destroy the moon, whilst lamenting the act of destruction.
I'd be okay with cutting it. Reading the description, it seems to be specifically about how tropes in media can cause issues across cultures, times, backgrounds, etc, because values are not universal. So, we don't need a whole page about exactly how values are not universal.
Color Me Black
Example was added about George Zimmerman. Race being a factor is something that will rage on for years (the judge specifically barred the use of the term "racially profiled Trayvon Martin") and being in the article serves as flame bait.
Today I went to have my mouth cleaned, and out of curiosity looked around to see if there were tropes about dentists. I found that Depraved Dentist had Real Life examples.
Needless to say, I added it to the crowner. Calling dentists sadists that enjoy causing pain to their patients is a no no in This Wiki.
"Suffer a vicious person and you will fear vice. Suffer a virtuous one and you will soon loathe virtue itself."
Strangely, there is already a NRLEP tag, but not in the source.
Also, a question pertinent to this topic - shall we go through all pages that link No Real Life Examples, Please! and replace their ontext mentions with the [[noreallife]] tag? I would say so, since it's an editor note (even if it becomes only on-page this way).
1968: I don't know about replacing, unless such warnings are considered too much wiki inside baseball to be shown to the casual reader. I'd rather let people who are about to hit the edit button know not to bother than for them to find out only after the fact.
I believe Eddie has categorically stated in the past that instructions geared towards editors, which NRLEP falls under, are not supposed to be visible to casual readers, which makes the edit screen the only place to put them. (Hm... it would be nice if we could get a code that would display the marked text only if the reader is logged in... maybe I'll start a tech wishlist thread for that.)
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7th Jan '15 6:19:55 AM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
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