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Real Life section maintenance (NEW CROWNER 10/15/14):

This is the thread to report tropes with problematic Real Life sections.

Common problems include:

Real Life sections on the wiki are kept as long as they don't become a problem. If you find an article with such problems, report it here. If it's really bad, the entire section may have to be removed. But hey, if someone feels like cleaning it up, it might be saved.

If you think an article should be filed under No Real Life Examples, Please!, then this thread is the place to discuss it. State the reasons and add it to the crowner.

edited 23rd Apr '12 4:18:09 AM by lu127

 901 Nohbody, Sat, 17th Nov '12 10:24:58 AM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
Calling The Constant - Added 15th Nov '12 at 08:44 AM, 14:1 (15)
 902 Nohbody, Mon, 19th Nov '12 1:46:11 AM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
Added Loser Son of Loser Dad. Calling RL people losers isn't really any better than calling them evil or jerkasses.

[edit]
Also added Magi Babble. There's no Functional Magic in RL, on which the trope's existence relies.

edited 19th Nov '12 2:01:07 AM by Nohbody

 903 Sachiko, Mon, 19th Nov '12 4:05:48 AM from Madrid, Spain Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Moe moe killing machine
You know, after all this time, I can't remember which tropes have passed through the crowner and, of those, which have been voted to leave alone. If I remember well, there was a page where those tropes were listed. Maybe Lu should put a link to that list at the beginning of the thread for ease of access. <.<
"Suffer a vicious person and you will fear vice. Suffer a virtuous one and you will soon loathe virtue itself."

Tony Duvert
 905 Earl of Sandvich, Thu, 22nd Nov '12 7:33:05 AM from the Palouse Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
Ski bi di bi di do bap do
Calling the Sorting Algorithm of Deadness. Cutlisting the RL subpage.
Status of possible Fallout RP idea: Thinking of and open to new ideas.

Just feelin' like a casual chat? My PM box is ALWAYS open!
 906 Nohbody, Thu, 22nd Nov '12 11:52:00 AM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
Calling:
Time to replace the crowner?
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
 908 Nohbody, Thu, 22nd Nov '12 1:33:04 PM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
With 21 entries (3 zapped), if it's not time to change it out yet it's getting close to that time, I'd say.
 909 Nohbody, Tue, 27th Nov '12 5:24:25 PM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
If there's not going to be a new crowner yet, Sanity Has Advantages looks like NRLEP fodder to me. Do we really need to be discussing the sanity (or lack thereof) of real people?

[Edit]
Likewise Shattered Sanity
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(Haven't added it them to the current crowner yet.)

edited 27th Nov '12 6:02:16 PM by Nohbody

Sanity Has Advantages in real life should be obvious. Listing examples is pointless. The amount of natter also tips the scales towards the chainsaw.

I'm not sure what Shattered Sanity is about? Is it about literal glass?

 911 Nohbody, Tue, 27th Nov '12 10:58:48 PM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
^ Breaking a pane of glass (often in a mirror) being symbolic of the person who broke it being or going insane.
 912 Another Duck, Wed, 28th Nov '12 1:57:05 AM from Stockholm Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
I frequently find that in these Real Life sections brought up here, whether they should actually be purged or not, there are lots of shoehorned examples, and as such they're prime bonfire material. Like the big one in Sanity Has Advantages.
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 913 nrjxll, Wed, 28th Nov '12 2:32:21 AM Relationship Status: Not war
Even Evil Has Loved Ones has a real life section - reasonably harmless at this point, but still not a good idea.

 914 Septimus Heap, Wed, 28th Nov '12 3:42:00 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
^The first example is a general Zero-Context Example. The third statement looks subjective to me - to my understanding, opinions on Temujin's actions are very country-specific.

 915 Nohbody, Wed, 28th Nov '12 9:07:30 AM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
^ Even without those issues, it's still an "evil" trope, and TVT policy is that RL people don't get called evil.

[edit] And still no decision on whether or not there's going to be a new crowner yet or not.

edited 28th Nov '12 9:08:50 AM by Nohbody

Sanity Slippage is another one that needs to get its real life examples chopped.

And the new crowner's here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/PageAction/RealLifeExamples?open=all#eq5af4ur

edited 28th Nov '12 12:22:25 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
 917 Septimus Heap, Wed, 28th Nov '12 12:20:05 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Why?

Sorry — it's a trope discussing "this person is going crazy — look you can see Tom Cruise or whoever slowly going nuts as you watch his career — it's like a trainwreck in slow motion!"

I don't think it's OK for this wiki to host gossip and speculation about something as personal as mental illness.

edited 28th Nov '12 12:25:03 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
 919 Another Duck, Wed, 28th Nov '12 3:13:55 PM from Stockholm Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
I'm going to have to agree with that. Claiming real people are insane when their medical records aren't known is just gossip, and off-mission for us. Also, it's tacky.
Check out my fanfiction!
Due to the very public nature of the outbursts we've been seeing as well as people admitting to spending time in rehab, I don't think insanity itself should be off-limits to RL examples.

^ Breaking a pane of glass (often in a mirror) being symbolic of the person who broke it being or going insane.

So the only example is Square Peg Round Trope?

edited 28th Nov '12 3:49:34 PM by reub2000

 921 videogmer 314, Wed, 28th Nov '12 4:12:22 PM from that one place Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Only having non-examples is not a reason to nominate a trope for NRLEP unless having actual examples is impossible, like Magic and Powers tropes.

edited 28th Nov '12 4:12:53 PM by videogmer314

 922 Nohbody, Wed, 28th Nov '12 5:15:40 PM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
^ No, but the part about gossiping about RL people and their (possible) mental condition is NRLEP bait.

Anyway, hollered for the new crowner to be hooked.
No mental disorders are being diagnosed here. Just generic insanity.

 924 Nohbody, Wed, 28th Nov '12 7:41:08 PM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
Insanity is a mental condition, and one that it isn't TVT's job to diagnose in RL people. Signing up for an account doesn't come with a psychiatric license.
Some people choose to publicly discuss mental health issues or rehab. Some people do not publicly disclose whatever issues they are having. Or just aren't having any. It is completely unfair to gossip and talk about such very personal things, especially considering the huge social stigma mental illness and insanity of every kind has. It's also unfair to spread rumors or disclose confidential information that you do know if that person hasn't publicly disclosed it themselves.

And I don't imagine we can put a sign saying "Only discuss the insanity of real people if they've publicly admitted to being insane, or were found insane by a court of law." and expect the editors to respect that.

Seriously.

T Vtropes is not a papparazzi tabloid, nor does insanity of real people have boo to do with the site mission. If a creator/author/director has publicly disclosed a mental condition and it had a noticeable effect on their works, then it can be discussed under the heading of their works.

And yes, mental illnesses are the actual medical conditions that people call "insanity." They're the same thing.

edited 28th Nov '12 8:50:43 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.

Page Action: Real Life Section Maintenance 23
15th Oct '14 6:37:56 AM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
At issue:
These are pages that have been proposed to have their Real Life sections cut and tagged to not be recreated.

Vote UP to indicate you think the Page should have NO Real Life examples.

Vote DOWN to allow Real Life examples.

Items that have been stricken (like so) have already been decided, with ten or more total votes, more than 48 hours on the crowner, and at least a 2:1 yes/no ratio. No further voting is needed on those items.

To check if something has already been voted on, please see Keep Real Life Examples.
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