Real Life sections on the wiki are kept as long as they don't become a problem. If you find an article with such problems, report it here. If it's really bad, the entire section may have to be removed. But hey, if someone feels like cleaning it up, it might be saved.
If you think an article should be filed under No Real Life Examples, Please!, then this thread is the place to discuss it. State the reasons and add it to the crowner.
I'm not asking to add entire indices. I guess what I'm asking for is to move those types of tropes into a slightly different category where No Real Life Examples, Please! has the same sort of probationary standard as Real Life sections over all.
I think Unwanted False Faith, God Guise, Stop Worshipping Me, and similar "X religion is objectively FALSE" tropes should not have Real Life sections, and should be on NRLEP, because they invite accusations that real religions are false/wrong. There may be real religious movements for which there is historical evidence that the founder was a liar or unwilling, but TV Tropes is not a place that can research and present such evidence objectively and fairly. Also, such tropes often rely on outside (authorial) statements that the religion is false, which we don't have in Real Life.
edited 23rd Apr '12 11:16:45 PM by ArcadesSabboth
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
Added Starfish Language. "Any language will seem like this to a native speaker of an unrelated language family, and often even to those who speak a related language. Languages are unique little snowflakes." That should be enough to discard the Real Life examples (NOT the constructed language examples!). The whole list has an annoying "Check out how weird/difficult the language I'm studying is !" vibe over it.
EDIT: Also, Rescued from the Scrappy Heap. We can't have Real Life Scrappies, having this one makes no sense.
I'm gonna have to agree with that. I'm not personally offended (I thought "Swedish is slightly tonal, as if it weren't unpronounceable enough already" was actually kinda funny), but I don't really think they fit the trope. They're not incomprehensible languages (even sign language to a blind person, as there are touch-based sign languages), and not even bizarre once you learn just a few things about them. I mean, I thought Nahuatl sounds rather bizarre and incomprehensible, but once I learned a few words and syntax rules, it made a lot more sense, even if I can't understand more than, well, a few words.
How about Manipulative Bastard? If nothing else I think that you could cut it by 75% by putting in an example of "Most politicians are seen this way at some point in their careers"
Edit: At a count that section lists 12 politicians and three others (people who work with children, cats and plants)
I think that one's okay if we clean everything post-WWI, or 1950 or something like that. While it's about manipulators, it's still about those who're very good at it, so I don't think it's all that insulting.
Not sure. It's about people who were once impopular but who gained respect back. I deleted an exception. Those we don't need.
I added Rescued from the Scrappy Heap. I figured, if we can't talk about Real Life scrappies, there's no point in describing how they can stop being scrappies.
There's not much complaining though, it's maybe unnecessary.
So, uh... Jesus Christ. Snuff Film has real life examples, cataloged by date, with links to videos. It has a caution warning, but still, WTF? I don't even think we need a crowner; this needs to go now.
We're not just men of science, we're men of TROPE!
So, how many votes are we looking for before we call a page? I know I've asked this a few times, but I have yet to get an answer. I'm more than willing to deal with some of these as soon as possible, but I just want to know when I am supposed to do it.
Idea: instead of making a new crowner all the time, we edit the crowner and put a "already voted, changed accordingly" notice in it, link to a screen shot or some such, and then everybody switches their vote to down so it's out of the way.
Added Cult just because peoples opinions on what is a cult and what is a legitimate religion can vary, and we might prefer to avoid that discussion. I'm not entirely convinced that it needs to go, but it definitely needs to be brought up.
Not even sure we need a page on snuff films, especially now, except possibly as a Useful Note.
I amended the crowner to clarify what we're going for here; we're not (at least, I'm not) trying to get rid of Real Life sections entirely.
So do we all change our votes to Down on the concluded pages?
Also, I want to nominate the following:
Evil Overlord — yes, real-life dictators are awful, but we don't need TV Tropes to remind us that Hitler was bad, because most people are aware of that. Some of the other examples are rather less clear.
^ Hmm. I didn't think about that issue.
Perhaps entirely removing from voting (if possible, never looked at the editing mechanism before) the ones already decided, and post them in the OP of the thread so they're not re-nominated?
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30th Jul '17 10:08:55 AM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
These are pages that have been proposed to have their Real Life sections cut and tagged to not be recreated.
Vote UP to indicate you think the Page should have NO Real Life examples.
Vote DOWN to allow Real Life examples.
Items that have been stricken (like so) have already been decided, meeting the following requirements:
They have ten or more total votes,
have been on the crowner for at least 48 hours, measured from when the addition of the new crowner entry is announced in a thread post,
and are stable with at least a 2:1 vote ratio.
No further voting is needed on those items.
To check if something has already been voted on, please see Keep Real Life Examples.
14 (yeas:17 nays:3) 5.67 : 1
Deus ex Machina: Like Diabolus ex Machina, the trope requires authorial intent to create a happy ending, which doesn't apply to real life.[Added 20th Oct 2017 05:33:54 AM]
13 (yeas:15 nays:2) 7.50 : 1
Embarrassing Damp Sheets: Too common, has NRLEP in the description but isn't listed on the index.[Added 12th Oct 2017, 5:04:37 AM]
9 (yeas:12 nays:3) 4.00 : 1
Horrible Hollywood: Gossip and stereotyping. The NRLEP notice on the page was never discussed here.[Added 12th Nov 2017 08:52:47 AM]