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edited 12th Feb '13 2:10:16 PM by Fighteer

Shotacon still exists, but is a blank page. The weird thing is that Fast Eddie is the one who blanked the page a couple of months ago and the page hasn't been deleted since, so you can still see the page's old text in the history. There are also several wicks to the page that need to be removed.

 11152 Septimus Heap, Sun, 20th Jul '14 12:21:53 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
I distinctly remember that page being cutlisted and cut. But there is no entry in the cutlist and the full Related page indicates that the Related page wasn't emptied.

It doen't exist. Read the page you get. It was just falsely blue-linked.

edited 20th Jul '14 12:32:49 PM by FastEddie

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
 11154 Septimus Heap, Sun, 20th Jul '14 12:32:16 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Several existing articles have been showing the "Nonexistent page text", actually. Although they all were pretty old.

 11155 Komodin, Sun, 20th Jul '14 1:11:47 PM from Somewhere in Windy Hill Zone Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Sonic Wiki Curator
Well, since Shotacon appears to be gone for good, then I guess we'd be better off without Lolicon as well since it's the same basic trope (paedophile) that we don't want here.
That doesn't follow. Lolicon is a term that includes what Shotacon is about. With a specific gender. Lolicon also is in much wider use than the pretty obscure otaku term shotacon.

edited 20th Jul '14 1:21:34 PM by FastEddie

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
 11157 Komodin, Sun, 20th Jul '14 1:24:30 PM from Somewhere in Windy Hill Zone Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Sonic Wiki Curator
Oh, fair enough.

Speaking of, the "Compare with Shotacon" line in Lolicon should be removed.
 11158 Septimus Heap, Sun, 20th Jul '14 1:26:55 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Or maybe changed to something like "Shotaconnote  is a term for the male version of this".

 11159 tdgoodrich 1, Sun, 20th Jul '14 1:32:28 PM from Atlanta Relationship Status: Californicating
Any Poor Souls Who Trespass Against Us...
As long as Google isn't breathing down our neck about the page, I see no reason not to leave it as is or go through with Komodin's or Septimus's proposed changes.

edited 20th Jul '14 1:32:57 PM by tdgoodrich1

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop

"I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
Just replace the "Compare with Shotacon" line with Septimus' suggestion and we're good. A mod will have to do it though, since it's locked.
 11161 Marq FJA, Sun, 20th Jul '14 1:38:56 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
I'd question how you came to the conclusion that shotacon is a "pretty obscure otaku term", Eddie, but that is neither here nor now, and even if I did manage to prove my case it most probably wouldn't bring the page back anyway.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
I wrote that definition some time ago. I could tweak it to be gender neutral and get rid of some of the awkward wording. Here.

I thought of mentioning that Lolicon may refer to themes relating to the underaged characters instead of pedophile character while noting the page should not be linked to in this manner, but I think for the most part we avoid talking about the content policy on the main pages, right?

 11163 Komodin, Sun, 20th Jul '14 1:54:18 PM from Somewhere in Windy Hill Zone Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Sonic Wiki Curator
By the way, both Sonic Girls and Hivefied are currently at two devilheads and two angelheads, respectively. Chintsubu and HookerVerse are still at zero votes.
 11164 Komodin, Sun, 20th Jul '14 2:57:18 PM from Somewhere in Windy Hill Zone Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Sonic Wiki Curator
Also, we got a new flag: If Thems The Rules.

Edit Reason: "I would like to know how I can get the If Them's the Rules TV Tropes page removed. The author, May Marlow, is very upset at the contents on this page. On your homepage you even state, "We are also not a wiki for bashing things. Once again, we're about celebrating fiction, not showing off how snide and sarcastic we can be." Unfortunately, this is what has happened to May Marlow. This article has acted as a launching point for vindictive and offensive language against her and her works. She is considering taking down her fanfiction because of the cyber bullying that has occurred. I have attempted to write to the writer of the article, who does not want to respect the fanfic author's wishes for her own selfish reasons. Please remove this article. I understand freedom of speech and whatnot, but this goes beyond the boundaries of civility. Please prevent this offensive material from resurfacing on your website, and help prevent unnecessary cyber harassment. Sincerely, Night Owl 999 (May Marlow's beta editor)"
Not a content violation. Zap it and take it to the negativity cleanup thread.
 11166 tdgoodrich 1, Sun, 20th Jul '14 3:00:19 PM from Atlanta Relationship Status: Californicating
Any Poor Souls Who Trespass Against Us...
5, 000 volts delivered at a current of 0.05 mA.
"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop

"I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
 11167 Septimus Heap, Sun, 20th Jul '14 3:03:04 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Uh-uh. They already tried blanking that page before and got suspended for that. Also, I am looking through the page and I can't find any negativity.

 11168 Adannor, Sun, 20th Jul '14 3:04:56 PM from effin' belarus
Huh, he also had previously blanked the page. He's probably been already banhammered for that, so mods are going to explain it if he shows up in edit bans.

[up]Dam ninjas.

edited 20th Jul '14 3:06:21 PM by Adannor

 11169 Pyrite, Sun, 20th Jul '14 4:52:17 PM from Right. Beneath. You. Relationship Status: Hiding
Until further notice
Arha: I think the proposed rewrite looks neater than the current one we have, certainly. There are probably one or two things I'd throw in, like mentioning the etymology of the term, but that's really optional.

If you wanted to put in a line about the term being used for works pandering to said demographic, your best bet would be to put it in the "for added confusion" paragraph. I don't think it would be too inappropriate to put in the line about not linking to it, as the No Real Life Examples pages might be a precedent for mentioning policy in the page itself.
Not a substitute for a formal medical consultation.
 11170 Madrugada, Sun, 20th Jul '14 5:10:14 PM Relationship Status: In season
With Mod Hat On
^^ The editor who blanked the If Thems The Rules page got bounced for the blanking and the edit reason. We now return you to your previously-scheduled discussion.

edited 20th Jul '14 5:10:45 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
 11171 Komodin, Sun, 20th Jul '14 5:32:14 PM from Somewhere in Windy Hill Zone Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Sonic Wiki Curator
Thank you, Madrugada.

Back on topic: Both Sonic Girls and Hivefied are currently at two devilheads and two angelheads, respectively. I've already voted on both, so Discar and Goodrich, if you haven't voted yet, I think it's time to do so and get it over with.

Also, Chintsubu and HookerVerse are still at zero votes. I'm still indecisive on what to do with either works.

edited 20th Jul '14 5:32:35 PM by Komodin

 11172 tdgoodrich 1, Sun, 20th Jul '14 5:46:31 PM from Atlanta Relationship Status: Californicating
Any Poor Souls Who Trespass Against Us...
I'm leaning keep on Chintsubu. As noted, it gives of more of an Oglaf sort of vibe than that of something that needs cutting unless it takes a nosedive into porn territory in later volumes. I don't really recall any sex scenes or anything worse than comedic masturbation.

Still need to look over the Hooker Verse material. Would like to hear the case against Hivefled from the person who blanked it initially before proceeding.

Already voted on that Sonic thing.

edited 20th Jul '14 5:52:40 PM by tdgoodrich1

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop

"I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
 11173 Pyrite, Sun, 20th Jul '14 7:27:45 PM from Right. Beneath. You. Relationship Status: Hiding
Until further notice
Would like to hear the case against Hivefled from the person who blanked it initially before proceeding.

Check here for JHM's reason for bringing it to attention, but if you want to talk to the one who blanked it... take it up with Fast Eddie.tongue
Not a substitute for a formal medical consultation.
 11174 tdgoodrich 1, Sun, 20th Jul '14 7:35:13 PM from Atlanta Relationship Status: Californicating
Any Poor Souls Who Trespass Against Us...
Never mind then, thought it was someone else (Jinxmenow?).
"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop

"I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
 11175 Pyrite, Sun, 20th Jul '14 8:50:58 PM from Right. Beneath. You. Relationship Status: Hiding
Until further notice
No, Jinx just mistakenly blanked the other pages as a follow-up action after the main page was cut.
Not a substitute for a formal medical consultation.
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