This is the thread to list un
cut works that you feel need to be reviewed by the 5P. All posts should be in the following format:
Reason(s) why you think it should be cut by our guidelines, or is borderline.
After posting, it will be added to the sandbox page
Abusing this system or using it for trolling is likely to get you a forum suspension, at the very least.
The system for voting whether a work is in line with wiki standards is here. It can only be used by the P5.
What we're looking for:
- Pure porn, or porn with an excuse plot only.
- Anything that has explicit underage sex
- Implied sex of preteens or younger
- Fanservice intended to cater to pedophiles (lolicon and shotacon count)
If you're not sure, it's okay
to list it here. Works will not be cut simply because you brought them up.
What we're not looking for:
A couple of guidelines so the procedure can move smoothly:
- Anything that has been rated T/PG-13 and under or the equivalent for the media. If the book can be sold unwrapped and shelved with other innocuous books (and not by mistake), it's fine.
- Things with teen fanservice that is aimed at teens.
Do NOT list whole indexes.
Do NOT list works you know nothing about without at least reading the trope page. If the trope page looks really bad, see point 4 below.
Do NOT just list works with lolicon on the trope list. A lot of times that means nothing more than they have a Law & Order
style creep as a bad guy and nothing ever happens on screen. And the guy is treated as creepy to boot. Read the trope page for context.
Do NOT list just because they're labelled H-Game. This genre ranges from heavy fanservice in an otherwise plot heavy game, to actual porn. We only want things on one end of that.
Do NOT list works that you know are G rated but you find them creepy.
Do NOT argue on this thread. Arguments will be thumped.
We need actual well thought out proposals dictating:
- If it's paedoshit approximately how old are the characters involved. What happens. Is it graphic? Is it merely implied?
- List what objectionable content there is, and how much of the work consists of that.
- If it's entirely sex, say so. People have different ideas of what porn is. We all have the same idea of what a work being entirely sex scenes is.
- If you're not sure about a work, say so, or ask someone who does know that work. But don't make blanket accusations. Post here: "I don't know about this work, but the page says X".
- Google and Wikipedia are your friends. Do a little digging on works you aren't sure about.
We need thought out complaints. Not off the cuff accusations. There's a difference between saying "This work's premise seems to involve children in sexual situations and rape as a plot mechanism." and "OMG! NUKE FROM ORBIT! It has the word lolicon in it or on the trope page, therefore it's pedoshit!!"
We're going to have a lot more luck getting the bad stuff out if we actually look at works and don't make blanket condemnations.
That said, better safe than sorry. If it looks skeevy to you, list it here and tell us why.
Thank you everyone for your help with this.
edited 26th Apr '12 10:53:12 AM by lu127