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Unclear Description: Love Letter Lunacy get usage counts

 1 Yuanchosaan, Wed, 18th Apr '12 6:30:31 AM from Australia Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, she is imaginary
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It came up in Image Pickin' that the trope is unclear as to whether it's simply about love letters, or about the hijinks that ensue due to a love letter. The first two paragraphs describe a typical love letter, then the third mentions the hijinks. If hijinks are the focus, I think the introduction could do with a rewrite - starting with "Sometimes..." and leaving it to the third paragraph diverts focus. The examples are also split between "a person receives love letters", "a person overreacts to someone receiving/sending a love letter" and "love letters result in a complication".

We might even have a few tropes here:
  • Love Letters themselves. Their usual form, as described in the first paragraph.
  • Love Letter Hijinks: what this trope is supposed to be. A love letter, misplaced or not, causes trouble for the cast. Might also cover people trying their best to receive one (like Charlie Brown).
  • Love Letter Obsession: characters who obsess over a love letter, whether it's agonising over handing a love letter to someone or writing a horrendously florid/lovey-dovey one.

Thoughts?

edited 18th Apr '12 6:30:56 AM by Yuanchosaan

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Well "Lunacy" in the name links to hijinks and really that is the way the trope should be laid out.

On that list just a plain Love Letter trope might be ok but unless we can flesh it out how its used in fiction it is P So C though.

Type 2 and 3 on that list will end up pretty much the same way its relatively the same Hijinks in agonizing over handing over one, handling giving a rejection back, friends agonizing over if it's rejected or not, forgetting to write your name on it, giving it to the wrong person, blackmailed to keep it a secret, trying to keep it from being delivered, falling into the hands of a rival. having it read in class, or writing one too sappy etc. I dont see them as different tropes really.

But I do think that someone who gets a lot of love letters and confessions in general (from guys and girls sometimes) is a different trope than what should be the usage of lunacy unless one or more of them actually leads to lunacy.

The standard anime stereo type is to put a love letter in someone's Inside Shoes locker which will always lead to hijinks. (such a stereo type that it gets lampshaded and called out a lot [1] its comparable to Late for School * in how played out it is.

Love Letter Delivery Stereotypes [2][3] [4] [5] [6] (all of which will usually end badly.)

EDIT: Love Letter currently redirects to Love Letter Lunacy.... theres the problem.

EDIT 2: Also Secret Admirer? wtf that is something completely different.

edited 18th Apr '12 8:44:11 AM by Raso

 3 Yuanchosaan, Thu, 19th Apr '12 1:12:30 AM from Australia Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, she is imaginary
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^"Lunacy" could be mistaken for mere Added Alliterative Appeal, or it could mean lunacy about love letters rather than caused by love letters. The name is fine so long as the trope description is clear.
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 4 A Groupie, Thu, 19th Apr '12 3:46:45 AM from City of Angelic Devils
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I think we should split here.

  • Love Letter: for the object of communication of love (letter or e-mail)

  • Love Letter Lunacy: For when the situation around a love letter turns into Hilarity Ensues with tons of wacky comedic events, or drama ensues with the drama being centered around the love letter being mistaken etcetera.

  • Love Letter Obsession: should be a subtrope of something, related to Loony Fan, Psycho Supporter, and possibly Groupie Brigade: someone gets a love letter and is creeped out by it.

?
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[up] Very much agree with that.
 6 ccoa, Fri, 18th May '12 8:15:49 AM from the Sleeping Giant
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Crowner appended to thread.
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 7 lu 127, Fri, 15th Jun '12 5:30:30 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
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 8 Hershele Ostropoler, Fri, 15th Jun '12 11:17:49 AM from BK.NY.US Relationship Status: Sharing a spaghetti noodle
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 9 ccoa, Mon, 30th Jul '12 11:03:42 AM from the Sleeping Giant
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We have consensus to split here.
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 10 lu 127, Wed, 10th Oct '12 1:26:21 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Anyone willing to do this?

edited 10th Oct '12 1:26:29 AM by lu127

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 11 lu 127, Thu, 24th Jan '13 4:20:11 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
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Here are my pathetic attempts at descriptions: Love Letter, Love Letter Lunacy, and Love Letter Obsession. Please feel free to improve them. I'm going to see what I can do about sorting the examples.
 13 Septimus Heap, Thu, 24th Jan '13 8:29:56 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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"Pathetic"? I could barely write something that long.

Well, I was mostly thinking of the Love Letter Obsession one.

But anyway, I finished sorting the examples from the page. There were a couple that I wasn't sure about, but it was just two or three from the anime section and the first webcomic example, so it's no big deal.
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Those all look okay to me; shall I take Love Letter Obsession through YKTTW to gather examples?

edited 24th Jan '13 9:14:43 AM by Telcontar

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I did some work on the description of Love Letter Obsession. I think the other two look good.

edited 24th Jan '13 9:17:26 AM by Nocturna

 18 Another Duck, Thu, 24th Jan '13 5:31:38 PM from Stockholm Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
I have an issue with the name Love Letter Obsession. It makes it sound as if it's an obsession about love letters, as if the recipient is the obsessive one, or just a hopeful recipient.

I'd prefer reversing it, like Obsessive Love Letter. That indicactes it's either the writer, or how the letter is perceived by the receiver.
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 19 lu 127, Sat, 26th Jan '13 10:04:53 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
The Duck makes a good point. Obssessive Love Letter is better and more comprehensive, since the obssession isn't about the letter but about the people involved.
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Agreed. Love Letter Obsession was just a placeholder name anyway.
 21 lu 127, Thu, 31st Jan '13 4:56:50 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
YKTTW link.
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 22 lu 127, Mon, 18th Mar '13 2:47:14 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Hello, anyone?
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Sorry, forgot about this one.
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Bump. Can I launch the YKTTW and move in the sandboxes?
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Sure, though it has very few examples.
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