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Yuanchosaan antic disposition from Australia Since: Jan, 2010
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#1: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:30:31 AM

It came up in Image Pickin' that the trope is unclear as to whether it's simply about love letters, or about the hijinks that ensue due to a love letter. The first two paragraphs describe a typical love letter, then the third mentions the hijinks. If hijinks are the focus, I think the introduction could do with a rewrite - starting with "Sometimes..." and leaving it to the third paragraph diverts focus. The examples are also split between "a person receives love letters", "a person overreacts to someone receiving/sending a love letter" and "love letters result in a complication".

We might even have a few tropes here:

  • Love Letters themselves. Their usual form, as described in the first paragraph.
  • Love Letter Hijinks: what this trope is supposed to be. A love letter, misplaced or not, causes trouble for the cast. Might also cover people trying their best to receive one (like Charlie Brown).
  • Love Letter Obsession: characters who obsess over a love letter, whether it's agonising over handing a love letter to someone or writing a horrendously florid/lovey-dovey one.

Thoughts?

edited 18th Apr '12 6:30:56 AM by Yuanchosaan

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#2: Apr 18th 2012 at 8:21:58 AM

Well "Lunacy" in the name links to hijinks and really that is the way the trope should be laid out.

On that list just a plain Love Letter trope might be ok but unless we can flesh it out how its used in fiction it is P So C though.

Type 2 and 3 on that list will end up pretty much the same way its relatively the same Hijinks in agonizing over handing over one, handling giving a rejection back, friends agonizing over if it's rejected or not, forgetting to write your name on it, giving it to the wrong person, blackmailed to keep it a secret, trying to keep it from being delivered, falling into the hands of a rival. having it read in class, or writing one too sappy etc. I dont see them as different tropes really.

But I do think that someone who gets a lot of love letters and confessions in general (from guys and girls sometimes) is a different trope than what should be the usage of lunacy unless one or more of them actually leads to lunacy.

The standard anime stereo type is to put a love letter in someone's Inside Shoes locker which will always lead to hijinks. (such a stereo type that it gets lampshaded and called out a lot [1] its comparable to Late for School *

in how played out it is.

Love Letter Delivery Stereotypes [2][3] [4] [5] [6] (all of which will usually end badly.)

EDIT: Love Letter currently redirects to Love Letter Lunacy.... theres the problem.

EDIT 2: Also Secret Admirer? wtf that is something completely different.

edited 18th Apr '12 8:44:11 AM by Raso

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Yuanchosaan antic disposition from Australia Since: Jan, 2010
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#3: Apr 19th 2012 at 1:12:30 AM

^"Lunacy" could be mistaken for mere Added Alliterative Appeal, or it could mean lunacy about love letters rather than caused by love letters. The name is fine so long as the trope description is clear.

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AGroupie sick of it all from City of Angelic Devils Since: Oct, 2009
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#4: Apr 19th 2012 at 3:46:45 AM

I think we should split here.

  • Love Letter: for the object of communication of love (letter or e-mail)

  • Love Letter Lunacy: For when the situation around a love letter turns into Hilarity Ensues with tons of wacky comedic events, or drama ensues with the drama being centered around the love letter being mistaken etcetera.

  • Love Letter Obsession: should be a subtrope of something, related to Loony Fan, Psycho Supporter, and possibly Groupie Brigade: someone gets a love letter and is creeped out by it.

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#6: May 18th 2012 at 8:15:49 AM

Crowner appended to thread.

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#7: Jun 15th 2012 at 5:30:30 AM

Calling crowner.

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#9: Jul 30th 2012 at 11:03:42 AM

We have consensus to split here.

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#10: Oct 10th 2012 at 1:26:21 AM

Anyone willing to do this?

edited 10th Oct '12 1:26:29 AM by lu127

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#11: Jan 24th 2013 at 4:20:11 AM

Clocking.

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#12: Jan 24th 2013 at 8:29:10 AM

Here are my pathetic attempts at descriptions: Love Letter, Love Letter Lunacy, and Love Letter Obsession. Please feel free to improve them. I'm going to see what I can do about sorting the examples.

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#13: Jan 24th 2013 at 8:29:56 AM

"Pathetic"? I could barely write something that long.

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#14: Jan 24th 2013 at 8:51:26 AM

Well, I was mostly thinking of the Love Letter Obsession one.

But anyway, I finished sorting the examples from the page. There were a couple that I wasn't sure about, but it was just two or three from the anime section and the first webcomic example, so it's no big deal.

Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#15: Jan 24th 2013 at 9:14:32 AM

Those all look okay to me; shall I take Love Letter Obsession through YKTTW to gather examples?

edited 24th Jan '13 9:14:43 AM by Telcontar

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#16: Jan 24th 2013 at 9:17:02 AM

I did some work on the description of Love Letter Obsession. I think the other two look good.

edited 24th Jan '13 9:17:26 AM by Nocturna

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#17: Jan 24th 2013 at 10:33:52 AM

[up][up] Yeah, that's a good idea.

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#18: Jan 24th 2013 at 5:31:38 PM

I have an issue with the name Love Letter Obsession. It makes it sound as if it's an obsession about love letters, as if the recipient is the obsessive one, or just a hopeful recipient.

I'd prefer reversing it, like Obsessive Love Letter. That indicactes it's either the writer, or how the letter is perceived by the receiver.

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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#19: Jan 26th 2013 at 10:04:53 AM

The Duck makes a good point. Obssessive Love Letter is better and more comprehensive, since the obssession isn't about the letter but about the people involved.

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#20: Jan 26th 2013 at 11:44:25 AM

Agreed. Love Letter Obsession was just a placeholder name anyway.

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#21: Jan 31st 2013 at 4:56:50 AM

YKTTW link.

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#22: Mar 18th 2013 at 2:47:14 AM

Hello, anyone?

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Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#24: Apr 5th 2013 at 3:08:18 PM

Bump. Can I launch the YKTTW and move in the sandboxes?

Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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