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lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#1: Apr 14th 2012 at 7:13:25 AM

What's wrong with this page. Let's see.

  • It's a terrible case of Weblinks Are Not Examples. The majority of examples are HOLY SHIT, THAT'S CREEPY!-> [insert link].
  • Many of the links are really close to over the line regarding NSFW content. I cleared some of them, but the issue remains.
  • It's a HONF page on an entire fandom. Why? That's incredibly broad and serves no purpose. Every single show that has been somewhat popular over the years will have people on the internet making stuff for shock value and trolling. Is there any reason to catalogue them into one place instead of their own work pages? We don't seem to do that for other fandoms.
  • It's already attracted edit warring once.

I don't think this page is necessary.

edited 14th Apr '12 7:16:38 AM by lu127

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2: Apr 14th 2012 at 7:20:15 AM

My general opinion is that all HONF subpages can go die in a fireevil grin - they are usually either Natter or Weblinks Are Not Examples.

I think that this page, if anything, could become an index of HONF subpages for MLP fanworks, but other than that it is cutlist fodder.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3: Apr 14th 2012 at 12:23:30 PM

Bumping since the page was tagged wrongly.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#4: Apr 14th 2012 at 12:44:50 PM

Maybe we should merge this with the series's fanfic recommendations page, because that's exactly what this page is.

Oh, wait - it looks like we recently cut all fanfic recs because of the risks associated with linking to direct unfiltered fan content. Perhaps that's a good excuse to cut this page as well.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5: Apr 14th 2012 at 12:46:17 PM

[up]HONF has nothing to do with fanfic recs. Read the "Policy Change" thread in Wiki Talk.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#6: Apr 14th 2012 at 12:50:07 PM

Normally it doesn't, sure. But this page is not a normal HONF page. HONF pages identify scary moments in a work. This page identifies works in a fan community.

Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#7: Apr 14th 2012 at 10:04:04 PM

I agree that the page could be cut. If any of the fan works mentioned have pages on the wiki, the examples can be moved to those pages, and if not, well, I'm not sure that that's much of a loss.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#8: Apr 15th 2012 at 1:57:31 PM

This page has 150 inbounds. It would be nice if they got somewhere. So, let's turn this into an index and be done with it.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TerTer Since: Apr, 2012
#9: Apr 15th 2012 at 3:07:34 PM

Okay, I'm kinda new here, so, what is it supposed to look like?

KaiserMazoku Since: Apr, 2011
#10: Apr 15th 2012 at 4:09:35 PM

Wait...a *non-canon* HONF page? Why does this exist? I'm in favor of nuking.

Martello Hammer of the Pervs from Black River, NY Since: Jan, 2001
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#11: Apr 15th 2012 at 4:10:40 PM

[up]Agreed.

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TerTer Since: Apr, 2012
#12: Apr 15th 2012 at 4:25:46 PM

I took the liberty of moving the "Tumblr Pony" entries to the Ask A Pony page, so we don't need to worry about that anymore..

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#13: Apr 15th 2012 at 10:37:44 PM

A NSFW warning on a link doesn't make it okay.

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troublegum Since: Feb, 2012
#14: Apr 16th 2012 at 4:00:07 AM

I'm with Lu: this page is just Bad Example Bait and an awful lot of this stuff could be listed on the individual works HONF pages. Even if we might rather it wasn't. And that is probably what will happen anyway if we were to cut this page.

Nuke 'em.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#15: Apr 16th 2012 at 8:40:10 AM

The inbounds? Does anyone have any objections against redirecting this somewhere meaningful or making it an index, instead of cutting?

The bad things would be gone either way.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#16: Apr 16th 2012 at 10:59:55 AM

Redirect it to the index for Little Pony fan works, if one exists. To the main Little Pony Nightmare Fuel page if none does.

NotALlama Trollvorlord& Drake 4evr Since: Apr, 2012
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#17: Apr 20th 2012 at 4:48:16 AM

Does anyone think it could be possible to move the not NSFW images to the 'Image Links' subpage? Or something of the like?

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TheEmptyOne The Empty One from CRITICAL ERROR Since: Dec, 2010
#18: Apr 21st 2012 at 3:23:23 PM

We can't move anything to the Nightmare Fuel page because Accidental Nightmare Fuel doesn't have entries anymore.

High Octane Nightmare Fuel has a Fanfics section, I for one think this page serves the same purpose- making it easier to navigate the site. No need to cut something that's actually providing information, and some of these fanworks don't have their own pages to attach the entries to.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#19: Apr 21st 2012 at 3:55:44 PM

I think it needs a nuke to the face. Mainly because making a catalog of the creppy things fans have made is pretty much pointless considering the massive ammount of "art", videos, and other stuff made just for shock value, like the OP said.

edited 21st Apr '12 3:56:29 PM by Elbruno

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#20: Apr 23rd 2012 at 6:06:22 AM

I got a holler to hook up a crowner, but the link to it was broken, and I don't see it linked in this thread.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#21: Apr 23rd 2012 at 6:33:41 AM

[up]Too long an URL. I'll remake it with a shorter one. Here it is

edited 23rd Apr '12 6:37:41 AM by SeptimusHeap

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#22: Apr 23rd 2012 at 6:39:45 AM

Crowner affixed to thread.

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
Fnu Since: Dec, 1969
#23: Apr 25th 2012 at 1:30:45 PM

I don't think deleting the page is a good idea. These aren't all just obscure fanworks that nobody's heard of. I don't read fanfiction of any kind for any series and I've heard of some of these.

DrStarky Okay Guy from Corn And Pig Land Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
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#24: Apr 25th 2012 at 3:30:20 PM

[up]That's actually a good argument for nuking it.

Stuff that belongs to the less obscure works can go on their own HNOF subpages.

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Fnu Since: Dec, 1969
#25: Apr 25th 2012 at 6:42:41 PM

[up] As long as the content is moved somewhere, I can live with nuking the page. We already have an index for the works themselves, and the works have their own pages, so just giving the works their own HONF pages makes sense. I just want to be sure that no content will be lost.

edited 25th Apr '12 6:43:49 PM by Fnu

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