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LGBT Rights and Religion:

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edited 4th Oct '13 8:26:43 AM by Madrugada

 13026 Matues, Fri, 23rd Aug '13 3:01:28 PM Relationship Status: Reincarnated romance

It amuses me that the "Endless power to recreate yourself" is considered sinful in this context.

And that they considered trans* people "Undisciplined". As if any of them are willing to deal with years of surgery and hormones and a lifetime of having life shit on you, just to feel like yourself.

Apparently, we're supposed to accept ourselves as God made us.

It is now morally wrong to exercise.
 13027 Captain Katsura, Fri, 23rd Aug '13 4:25:33 PM from    Poland   
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Conservative Christians then should not vaccinate themselves, be receivers of organ transplantations, et cetera. Maybe that would hasten their decline. tongue
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 13028 Ringsea, Fri, 23rd Aug '13 5:14:50 PM from Fly-Over Country,USA Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
The Face of Mercy
  • Is a Conservative Christian who supports gay marriage, transexuality, and vaccinations*

You meant bigoted Conservative Christians.
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 13029 Blue Ninja 0, Fri, 23rd Aug '13 5:28:00 PM from The Middle of Nowhere Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Slowly dying on the inside
It is now morally wrong to exercise.
Lemme run that by my chief and I'll get back to you.

Family members booted from church for supporting their gay daughter.
Elders at Ridgedale Church of Christ told Linda Cooper and two relatives that their public support for Kat Cooper, Linda Cooper's gay daughter, went against the church's teachings, local media reported. In a private meeting, reports say, Linda Cooper was given a choice: publicly atone for their transgressions or leave the church.
Yep, disown your family or get disowned by your church. Heck of a choice, right?
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 13030 Radical Taoist, Sat, 24th Aug '13 11:00:36 AM from the #GUniverse
scratching at .8, just hopin'
It's really hard not to respond with "and nothing of value was lost". Why would you want to stay with those asshats?
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So out of curiosity, what Christian denominations are friendly toward LGBT rights and people? Or at least personal churches, having just looked at my own father's denomination and seeing how conflicted that is.

 13032 Elfive, Sat, 24th Aug '13 11:39:08 AM from London
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Well, here's a list of the ones that don't consider it a sin at all. There are a few others who are sort of ok with it.

We really need more people willing to respond to an organization going "support out bigoted belief or get kicked out" with "Well, fuck your shit".
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[up][up][up]Because church is life, family, community, support, and guidance, even though in those things it may break you. And it can be very hard to recognise a houseful of asshats when they are asshats you've come to love and trust. And it can be very hard to leave a houseful of asshats when they're loving and trustworthy in other areas.
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 13034 Ringsea, Fri, 6th Sep '13 10:53:55 AM from Fly-Over Country,USA Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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"Your sexuality doesn't matter" the Pope http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/3878617?utm_hp_ref=tw
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 13035 Muramasan 13, Fri, 6th Sep '13 1:20:22 PM Relationship Status: Not war
"Your sexuality doesn't matter" the Pope

That sentiment would seem to be at odds with the Church's position on marriage equality. Not that I'm complaining- baby steps, after all.
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 13036 Radical Taoist, Fri, 6th Sep '13 1:23:46 PM from the #GUniverse
scratching at .8, just hopin'
You don't have to tell us Papa, tell those guys over there who are denying LGBTQ people service at Catholic hospitals.
 13037 Morgikit, Fri, 6th Sep '13 1:25:36 PM from Lavender Town Relationship Status: In season
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[up]Where is this going on?
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 13038 Keybreak, Fri, 6th Sep '13 5:34:29 PM from amid it all Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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If it's true, then that's good.

If the church says that it's okay to at least be gay if not act gay, then that's big progress for Catholicism.
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 13039 soban, Fri, 6th Sep '13 5:38:36 PM from The Park Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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I'd like to note that the Bible calls homosexual actions sin, not homosexual feelings.
As is in accordance with prophecy.
 13040 ramuf, Fri, 6th Sep '13 5:48:26 PM from Hjaalmarch
So, it's alright to be gay; you just have to be celibate?
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 13041 Morgikit, Fri, 6th Sep '13 5:49:42 PM from Lavender Town Relationship Status: In season
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"What the Bible says" and "what Christians say" aren't always the same thing.
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 13042 Radical Taoist, Fri, 6th Sep '13 5:50:08 PM from the #GUniverse
 13043 Keybreak, Fri, 6th Sep '13 5:50:11 PM from amid it all Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Stasis
Or suppress it and act straight.
I would rather fail in my own way than succeed by someone else's.
 13044 Morgikit, Fri, 6th Sep '13 5:57:03 PM from Lavender Town Relationship Status: In season
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If that doctor had targeted any other group, their career would be over. Sometimes I think we're too nice for our own good.

edited 6th Sep '13 5:57:26 PM by Morgikit

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 13045 Keybreak, Fri, 6th Sep '13 5:58:16 PM from amid it all Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Gay Panthers...?
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 13046 Morgikit, Fri, 6th Sep '13 6:03:49 PM from Lavender Town Relationship Status: In season
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More like make sure the "doctor's" tendency to neglect their duties is well known, making it much harder for them to find work.
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 13047 Telcontar, Sat, 7th Sep '13 2:18:47 AM from England
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Ramuf: That is the common line.
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 13048 Polarstern, Mon, 9th Sep '13 7:34:05 PM from United States
My son, the eldest, was invited to a local church. He tried to politely decline the invite but the girl was rather persistent.

After several invites over several days, she finally asked him why he wouldn't go with her.

He told her he has no desire to go to church and is quite happy to go to hell because then he would be with the only parents he had ever had that loved him.

I rejoice in the progress we are making in social acceptance. And I do feel there is progress. However as with any social evolution, those retaining the less desirable dogma will dig their heels in tighter. Take this with economic instability and military action becoming more commonplace in too many areas, it is going to be an interesting time to see how social norms and mental health continues as religious communities struggle to decide where they want to develop.

 13049 Joesolo, Mon, 9th Sep '13 7:37:47 PM Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
[up] May I ask what branch the Church was of?
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 13050 Polarstern, Mon, 9th Sep '13 7:59:31 PM from United States
I didn't ask. I personally think it's irrelevant.

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