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LGBT Rights and Religion:

Discussion of religion in the context of LGBT rights is only allowed in this thread.

Discussion of religion in any other context is off topic in all of the "LGBT rights..." threads.

Attempting to bait others into bringing up religion is also not allowed.

edited 4th Oct '13 8:26:43 AM by Madrugada

 11451 Irene, Wed, 8th May '13 1:44:49 PM from Friend Code: 1203-9265-8784 Relationship Status: Love is an open door
Bumba Shoot Knight
[up][up] It was a pun, not meant to offend.

You're taking it out of context. "Don't be a dick by showing your dick in inappropriate situations." And since we were talking about "whipping out a dick" in the original post, it makes sense to use those words.

edited 8th May '13 1:49:22 PM by Irene

 11452 Rhyme Beat, Wed, 8th May '13 1:46:11 PM from Eastern Standard Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Green Sorceress
In the same way as reffering to whimps as "pussies" are/
 11453 Ekuran, Wed, 8th May '13 1:47:30 PM from somewhere. Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Hi.
So much talk about dick in a homosexuality thread. Truly surprising.
[Insert seemingly profound or amusing phrase here.]
granted. both have certain unfortunate connotations.

Dicks tend to be viewed as overbearing and overly loud. Pussies are wimpy, fragile little things.
Going Forth!
 11455 Ninety, Wed, 8th May '13 1:50:41 PM from Land of Quakes and Hills Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
[up][up] .
math792d: "If there was a tagline to the Aesir beyond 'war never changes, ' it would be 'alcohol was involved.'"
 11456 L Mage, Wed, 8th May '13 1:55:27 PM from Miss Robichaux's Academy Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Evil Trickster
To quote Betty White: "Why do people say "grow some balls"? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding."
"You are never taller then when standing up for yourself"
 11457 Irene, Wed, 8th May '13 1:58:01 PM from Friend Code: 1203-9265-8784 Relationship Status: Love is an open door
Bumba Shoot Knight
[up] [lol]

But seriously, although we say "don't be a dick", we just mean to not be a jerk. Although I agree there's some Unfortunate Implications here in the phrasing.

Although I'd say it's kind of off-topic and closer to sexism issues in this case.
 11458 Morgikit, Wed, 8th May '13 2:11:00 PM from Lavender Town Relationship Status: In season
Queen of Foxes
Is it possible to be a dick and a pussy at the same time? Wimpy and overbearing?

link

I'm unable to watch the video at this time, but based on the article, high schools are apparently full of homosexual atheists in Nazi uniforms burning Bibles and Chick tracts, and assaulting Christian students for comparing gay marriage to bank robbery.

Peter Sprigg, a spokesman for anti-same-sex marriage Christian lobbying group Family Research Council (FRC), bemoaned the fate of his organization in a CNN piece earlier this week, while other Christian pundits have suggested that anti-gay, Christian activists may one day be treated similar to how the Jews were treated during the Holocaust.

Equality über alles!
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 11459 Irene, Wed, 8th May '13 2:12:19 PM from Friend Code: 1203-9265-8784 Relationship Status: Love is an open door
Bumba Shoot Knight
[up] Yes. Some can be bullies. They'll constantly berate you(etc.) but when pushed back, they run away scared.
 11460 Ninety, Wed, 8th May '13 2:16:06 PM from Land of Quakes and Hills Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
Oh God, why do I have to share a vague denomination with those terminal morons?
math792d: "If there was a tagline to the Aesir beyond 'war never changes, ' it would be 'alcohol was involved.'"
 11461 Elfive, Wed, 8th May '13 2:22:02 PM from London
yarr
Godwin aside, it does give a brief glance into the mindset of these people: they're treating gays the way they think gays would treat them if they were in charge.
 11462 Ninety, Wed, 8th May '13 2:25:36 PM from Land of Quakes and Hills Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
But! But! Argh! How can people be so Goddamned stupid? This is literally beyond my suspension of disbelief!
math792d: "If there was a tagline to the Aesir beyond 'war never changes, ' it would be 'alcohol was involved.'"
 11463 Elfive, Wed, 8th May '13 2:27:57 PM from London
 11464 Irene, Wed, 8th May '13 2:30:03 PM from Friend Code: 1203-9265-8784 Relationship Status: Love is an open door
Bumba Shoot Knight
People do things based upon little information and/or biases. This isn't ultimately unusual.

It's stupid, of course.
 11465 Matues, Wed, 8th May '13 2:33:40 PM Relationship Status: Reincarnated romance
Oh, those poor babies.

It must be so hard being fired because of what you are, or having to worry constantly about social isolation or possible physical assault all the time, or having to hope that your family doesn't abandon you just because you're secretly christian.

Or having so many people be against your basic rights. Or have people trying to convert you against your will.

That must be so terrible, I can't even imagine.
 11466 Radical Taoist, Wed, 8th May '13 2:37:17 PM from the #GUniverse
scratching at .8, just hopin'
I happen to think that "cunt" and "pussy" are also sexist insults that shouldn't be used.

BUT BACK ON TOPIC. Matues' sarcasm hits a fundamental point - there is a large contingent in the anti-gay crowd that is incapable of empathizing with the Other at all.
 11467 kay4today, Wed, 8th May '13 2:41:32 PM from Austria
Princess Ymir's knightess
You know who was also anti-gay? Hitler!

This thread has been godwin'd, please leave as fast as you can.

edited 8th May '13 2:41:39 PM by kay4today

 11468 Wildcard, Wed, 8th May '13 2:42:41 PM from Somewhere in the galaxy
Go! Fly! Win!
[up][up][up]If they gave more of an example of bullying instead of "we can't prey in school and we can't tell everyone how sinful they are".

edited 8th May '13 2:42:49 PM by Wildcard

Whatever tomorrow brings I'll be there. With open arms and open eyes.
 11469 kay4today, Wed, 8th May '13 2:46:37 PM from Austria
Princess Ymir's knightess
But Matues, if we give the homos those rights, then exactly this is going to be happen! Just like the homos earlier, the Christians will be opressed!

Just like black people started opressing white people after they suddenly had rights.

edited 8th May '13 2:46:53 PM by kay4today

 11470 Matues, Wed, 8th May '13 2:50:23 PM Relationship Status: Reincarnated romance
Yes. We need to get rid of them quick!

What do they like? We can make a gay trap and then send them to goddless California.

It'll be sinking into the sea first thing with JESUS! comes back. Should be any day now.

EDIT:

As fun as sarcasm is, that was a bit harsh. It's just really depressing.

They had the gall to say All Men Were Created Equal at the end of that.

It almost makes me want to cry, to see how bent and twisted they've made their philosophy. To see the tortured warpedness of what they've made of their religion- a tool of comfort and enlightenment bent into one of hatred and intolerance.

edited 8th May '13 3:12:46 PM by Matues

[up]

what makes it even more sad is they truly dont see the intolerance theyre promoting.

I mean, look at maxima. He's a great guy and even he it took months of pointing out logical fallacies before he understood just how deep the corruption of the christian ideal has gone.

edited 8th May '13 4:03:43 PM by Midgetsnowman

Going Forth!
 11472 Ninety, Wed, 8th May '13 4:03:01 PM from Land of Quakes and Hills Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
But... man. This is just hard to process. I think their idiocy broke my brain.
math792d: "If there was a tagline to the Aesir beyond 'war never changes, ' it would be 'alcohol was involved.'"
[up]

to a degree I dont think its idiocy so much as that theyve been taught from false premises since they were born. They literally know no other way to process the world around them, and are further taught to disregard doubts as "satan whispering lies in your ear"

Its pretty much such a self-reinforcing worldview that escaping it and noticing just how corrupted the ideal has become takes a lot more effort and willingness to even consider that your pastor might not hold all the answers than most people can summon.
Going Forth!
Euo will do!
I call it "blinkers", myself. Used to wear 'em myself: they can get rid of them, too. Moving way outside their comfort zone somehow would help, but is unlikely. tongue

edited 8th May '13 4:09:37 PM by Euodiachloris

"When all else failed, she tried being reasonable." ~ Pratchett, Johnny and the Bomb
 11475 Blue Ninja 0, Sat, 11th May '13 11:24:58 PM from The Middle of Nowhere Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Slowly dying on the inside
Canada rules biblical fliers bashing homosexuals are hate speech. The article is fairly neutral in tone, while the comments work quite hard at proving Maxima is the only non-batshit Christian around. tongue The only part of the article that really sounds like it disagrees with the ruling is when they quote the guy who lost the case:
“The ruling and the reasoning [of the court] is terrible, ” he told reporters. “They actually used the concept that truth is not a defense.”
However much good can be brought out from the bible, it is not literal truth*, which is where I'm guessing this guy's problems started in the first place. In addition:
However, the Supreme Court of Canada declared Wednesday that oftentimes, it is impossible to say that one loves the sinner and hates the sin. It asserted that the hatred of the act was inseparable from hating the person or person group.
I think we've had plenty of people on this thread (and others) with this very line of argument? Most people don't make the distinction between "I hate what you do" and "I hate you" and it doesn't seem like this guy was one of those few.
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