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LGBT Rights and Religion:

Discussion of religion in the context of LGBT rights is only allowed in this thread.

Discussion of religion in any other context is off topic in all of the "LGBT rights..." threads.

Attempting to bait others into bringing up religion is also not allowed.

edited 4th Oct '13 8:26:43 AM by Madrugada

 10051 Ninety, Thu, 14th Mar '13 2:28:41 PM from Land of Quakes and Hills Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
That is my hope. The Church, unfortunately, is nowhere ready to accept homosexual rights as of right now, but even if his personal views are against it, Francis' apparently more progressive views are a first step forwards. It may be several papacies before some compromise can be achieved, but I have hope.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
 10052 Achaemenid, Tue, 19th Mar '13 6:56:38 AM from Mitakihara Town, Copenhagen Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Za naszą i waszą wolność
This is the funniest argument against gay marriage I have ever seen.

Proposed changes to marriage would open the way for Star Wars Jedi to perform ceremonies, a church has said.

The Free Church of Scotland said the Marriage and Civil Partnership (Scotland) Bill will allow groups promoting a belief to marry couples.

The government said the change was relevant to bodies such as humanists, who are classed as religious rather than non-religious at the moment.

A spokeswoman said the reputation of Scottish ceremonies would be protected.

The Free Church of Scotland has raised concerns about religious and civil partnership ceremonies being joined by a third category.

Church spokesman, the Reverend Iver Martin, told BBC Alba: "The third category is quite astonishing because it is the so-called belief category without really defining what belief means.

"There are loads of people in a diverse society like this for whom belief can mean virtually anything - the Flat Earth Society and Jedi Knights Society - who knows?

For non-Scottish tropers, the Free Church of Scotland, also known as the "Wee Frees", is a tiny denomination that holds sway in the Northwest Highlands and the Hebrides (the island chain off the northwest of Britain). It is very small, but reasonably influential in Scotland. It is the more conservative wing of Scottish presbyterianism.

Be mindful of the living force, padawans.

edited 19th Mar '13 6:56:59 AM by Achaemenid

 10053 Radical Taoist, Tue, 19th Mar '13 7:02:33 AM from the #GUniverse
scratching at .8, just hopin'
....I must in my lifetime attend at least one Jedi wedding.
 10054 Silasw, Tue, 19th Mar '13 7:06:10 AM from The UNITED Kingdom Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Globalist Bunny
Can't Jedi perform ceremonies anyway? After all if drive though Elvis can... Or are drive though Elvis' not allowed in Scotland?
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael

"If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
 10055 Iaculus, Tue, 19th Mar '13 7:11:14 AM from England
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
Whoa whoa whoa - a Jedi shall not know love, remember?
Freedom of speech includes the freedom for other people to call you out on your bullshit.
 10056 Carciofus, Tue, 19th Mar '13 7:19:26 AM from Alpha Tucanae I
Is that cake frosting?
Whoa whoa whoa - a Jedi shall not know love, remember?
Only if you are a really hard-line traditionalist.

When Luke Skywalker founded the New Jedi Order, after the fall of the Galactic Empire, he chose to remove the ancient ban on Jedi marriage.

And that happened a long, long time ago, in a galaxy far away...
But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.

 10057 rmctagg09, Tue, 19th Mar '13 7:24:29 AM from Brooklyn, NY Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
And that only really became a rule beforehand post-Russan Reformation IIRC.
Hugging a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.

It's typed rmctagg09.
 10058 Silasw, Tue, 19th Mar '13 7:33:37 AM from The UNITED Kingdom Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Globalist Bunny
[up][up][up] [insert joke about love and marriage not being the same thing]
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael

"If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
 10059 Polarstern, Tue, 19th Mar '13 7:33:44 AM from United States Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The U.S. Military acknowledge and support Jedi Religion.
"Oh wait. She doesn't have a... Forget what I said, don't catch the preggo. Just wear her hat." - Question Marc
 10060 Radical Taoist, Tue, 19th Mar '13 7:50:35 AM from the #GUniverse
scratching at .8, just hopin'
@Iaculus: I thought that ban was only for Knights and Masters, not lay members.

@Carcio: I preferred the Reform Jedi Order anyways.

...this is the most bizarre re-rail onto topic I have ever committed, but...what's the Jedi position on homosexuality?

edited 19th Mar '13 7:51:21 AM by RadicalTaoist

 10061 Morgikit, Tue, 19th Mar '13 8:40:57 AM from Lavender Town Relationship Status: In season
Queen of Foxes
Do gay people exist in the Star Wars universe? Maybe it's like Star Trek: "they exist, but the network won't let us show them"?

edited 19th Mar '13 8:41:49 AM by Morgikit

 10062 Carciofus, Tue, 19th Mar '13 8:43:39 AM from Alpha Tucanae I
Is that cake frosting?
Did not some (silly) people complain because the latest Star Wars game allows for homosexual relationships between the protagonist and some characters? Or was it another game?

edited 19th Mar '13 8:44:03 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.

 10063 Wildcard, Tue, 19th Mar '13 8:43:40 AM from Somewhere in the galaxy
Go! Fly! Win!
[up][up]Probably in the Extended Universe. Same as with Star Trek.

edited 19th Mar '13 8:44:03 AM by Wildcard

Whatever tomorrow brings I'll be there. With open arms and open eyes.
 10064 Blue Ninja 0, Tue, 19th Mar '13 9:47:54 AM from The Middle of Nowhere Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Plotting my Escape
The U.S. Military acknowledge and support Jedi Religion. - Polar
We do?
I'm going to get killed becuase some guy saw me walk out of a Subway eating a foot long shotgun - Mousa
 10065 Gabrael, Tue, 19th Mar '13 9:56:36 AM from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
2 tons of fun!
When my brother (Army National Guard) was choosing his dog tags, Jedi was an option. Apparently at least if he is KIA they'll try to treat the body according to the Jedi religion.

I have no clue what that entails, but it was a button to check.
Upon death, I want to be cremated and blown in the face of my enemies.
Probably burning the body like they did to Vader and Qui-Gon.

 10067 Medinoc, Tue, 19th Mar '13 9:59:32 AM from France
I want Kat's glasses!
[up][up]A funeral pyre, I'd guess.

Edit: Ninja'd.

edited 19th Mar '13 9:59:47 AM by Medinoc

They Called Me Mad!! I decided to show them all; but when I looked on my works, oh mighty, I despaired: for it made me realize they were right.
 10068 Gabrael, Tue, 19th Mar '13 10:11:32 AM from My musings Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
2 tons of fun!
Military prepares the body. They do not cremate or bury. They just get it to the family.

Some religions have requirements on how that body is to be handled though, like washing, hair cutting, who is allowed to touch, how the body is to be positioned, etc.

The military tries to honor those requirements.
Upon death, I want to be cremated and blown in the face of my enemies.
 10069 Jhimmibhob, Tue, 19th Mar '13 10:12:53 AM from Arm's reach of the julep machine Relationship Status: My own grandpa
Do gay people exist in the Star Wars universe? Maybe it's like Star Trek: "they exist, but the network won't let us show them"?

Not sure ... does C3PO count?

edited 19th Mar '13 10:13:04 AM by Jhimmibhob

"She was the kind of dame they write similes about." —Pterodactyl Jones
 10070 Polarstern, Tue, 19th Mar '13 10:38:49 AM from United States Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Yeah, Gabrael ninja'd me.

Navy allows Jedi on your tags too.
"Oh wait. She doesn't have a... Forget what I said, don't catch the preggo. Just wear her hat." - Question Marc
 10071 Blue Ninja 0, Tue, 19th Mar '13 12:21:02 PM from The Middle of Nowhere Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Plotting my Escape
does C 3 PO count? - Jhimmy
Only if you're shipping him with Donut.

I'm surprised about the Jedi military thing, because I don't remember it being an option when I went through boot camp, and there's generally so much hassle involved for anyone who's not Judeo/Christian I didn't think it was serious.
I'm going to get killed becuase some guy saw me walk out of a Subway eating a foot long shotgun - Mousa
 10072 L Mage, Tue, 19th Mar '13 4:04:40 PM from Miss Robichaux's Academy Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Evil Trickster
[up][up][up]

Heheh. Check out the "Same Gender Romance" argument for Star Wars: The Old Republic.

re: Jedi Religion

...I would like to take this time to point out the Jedi are basically, magical Buddhist Monks mixed with Medieval Knights.

edited 19th Mar '13 4:07:30 PM by LMage

"You are never taller then when standing up for yourself"
I believe there's a character in The Clone Wars cartoon who is confirmed in the expanded universe to be trans.

Interestingly she's a Hutt.

Hutts always seem to have interesting sexuality.

 10074 rmctagg09, Tue, 26th Mar '13 5:29:39 PM from Brooklyn, NY Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
Hutts are naturally hermaphroditic since they're gastropods.
Hugging a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.

It's typed rmctagg09.
 10075 joeyjojo, Tue, 26th Mar '13 6:01:17 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Happy Oktoberfest!
[up][up][up][up]When did you go through? Basically a few years back they was a push to get for people to put jedi on their census forms as a joke and it took off[1].

Basically if enough people say they're jedi they government has to treat it as if it's a real religion. No matter how blatantly false.
Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy -Gandolf In Harry Potter
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