LGBT Rights and Religion:

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Discussion of religion in the context of LGBT rights is only allowed in this thread.

Discussion of religion in any other context is off topic in all of the "LGBT rights..." threads.

Attempting to bait others into bringing up religion is also not allowed.

edited 4th Oct '13 8:26:43 AM by Madrugada

10051 Ninety14th Mar 2013 02:28:41 PM from Land of Quakes and Hills , Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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That is my hope. The Church, unfortunately, is nowhere ready to accept homosexual rights as of right now, but even if his personal views are against it, Francis' apparently more progressive views are a first step forwards. It may be several papacies before some compromise can be achieved, but I have hope.
Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
10052 Achaemenid19th Mar 2013 06:56:38 AM from Blades , Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Mr?
This is the funniest argument against gay marriage I have ever seen.

Proposed changes to marriage would open the way for Star Wars Jedi to perform ceremonies, a church has said.

The Free Church of Scotland said the Marriage and Civil Partnership (Scotland) Bill will allow groups promoting a belief to marry couples.

The government said the change was relevant to bodies such as humanists, who are classed as religious rather than non-religious at the moment.

A spokeswoman said the reputation of Scottish ceremonies would be protected.

The Free Church of Scotland has raised concerns about religious and civil partnership ceremonies being joined by a third category.

Church spokesman, the Reverend Iver Martin, told BBC Alba: "The third category is quite astonishing because it is the so-called belief category without really defining what belief means.

"There are loads of people in a diverse society like this for whom belief can mean virtually anything - the Flat Earth Society and Jedi Knights Society - who knows?

For non-Scottish tropers, the Free Church of Scotland, also known as the "Wee Frees", is a tiny denomination that holds sway in the Northwest Highlands and the Hebrides (the island chain off the northwest of Britain). It is very small, but reasonably influential in Scotland. It is the more conservative wing of Scottish presbyterianism.

Be mindful of the living force, padawans.

edited 19th Mar '13 6:56:59 AM by Achaemenid

10053 RadicalTaoist19th Mar 2013 07:02:33 AM from the #GUniverse
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....I must in my lifetime attend at least one Jedi wedding.
10054 Silasw19th Mar 2013 07:06:10 AM from The UNITED Kingdom , Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
Can't Jedi perform ceremonies anyway? After all if drive though Elvis can... Or are drive though Elvis' not allowed in Scotland?
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Whoa whoa whoa - a Jedi shall not know love, remember?
What's precedent ever done for us?
10056 Carciofus19th Mar 2013 07:19:26 AM from Alpha Tucanae I
Is that cake frosting?
Whoa whoa whoa - a Jedi shall not know love, remember?
Only if you are a really hard-line traditionalist.

When Luke Skywalker founded the New Jedi Order, after the fall of the Galactic Empire, he chose to remove the ancient ban on Jedi marriage.

And that happened a long, long time ago, in a galaxy far away...
But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.

10057 rmctagg0919th Mar 2013 07:24:29 AM from Brooklyn, NY , Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
And that only really became a rule beforehand post-Russan Reformation IIRC.
Hugging a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.

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10058 Silasw19th Mar 2013 07:33:37 AM from The UNITED Kingdom , Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
[up][up][up] [insert joke about love and marriage not being the same thing]
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael

"If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
10059 Polarstern19th Mar 2013 07:33:44 AM from United States , Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The U.S. Military acknowledge and support Jedi Religion.
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10060 RadicalTaoist19th Mar 2013 07:50:35 AM from the #GUniverse
scratching at .8, just hopin'
@Iaculus: I thought that ban was only for Knights and Masters, not lay members.

@Carcio: I preferred the Reform Jedi Order anyways.

...this is the most bizarre re-rail onto topic I have ever committed, but...what's the Jedi position on homosexuality?

edited 19th Mar '13 7:51:21 AM by RadicalTaoist

10061 Morgikit19th Mar 2013 08:40:57 AM from    Alabama    , Relationship Status: In season
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Do gay people exist in the Star Wars universe? Maybe it's like Star Trek: "they exist, but the network won't let us show them"?

edited 19th Mar '13 8:41:49 AM by Morgikit

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10062 Carciofus19th Mar 2013 08:43:39 AM from Alpha Tucanae I
Is that cake frosting?
Did not some (silly) people complain because the latest Star Wars game allows for homosexual relationships between the protagonist and some characters? Or was it another game?

edited 19th Mar '13 8:44:03 AM by Carciofus

But they seem to know where they are going, the ones who walk away from Omelas.

10063 Wildcard19th Mar 2013 08:43:40 AM from Somewhere in the galaxy
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[up][up]Probably in the Extended Universe. Same as with Star Trek.

edited 19th Mar '13 8:44:03 AM by Wildcard

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10064 BlueNinja019th Mar 2013 09:47:54 AM from Hiding in the corner , Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Sailing the big blue sea
The U.S. Military acknowledge and support Jedi Religion. - Polar
We do?
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10065 Gabrael19th Mar 2013 09:56:36 AM from My musings , Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
When my brother (Army National Guard) was choosing his dog tags, Jedi was an option. Apparently at least if he is KIA they'll try to treat the body according to the Jedi religion.

I have no clue what that entails, but it was a button to check.
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Probably burning the body like they did to Vader and Qui-Gon.
I want Kat's glasses!
[up][up]A funeral pyre, I'd guess.

Edit: Ninja'd.

edited 19th Mar '13 9:59:47 AM by Medinoc

Grandma, what big teeth you have! It would be a shame if anything happened to them.
10068 Gabrael19th Mar 2013 10:11:32 AM from My musings , Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Military prepares the body. They do not cremate or bury. They just get it to the family.

Some religions have requirements on how that body is to be handled though, like washing, hair cutting, who is allowed to touch, how the body is to be positioned, etc.

The military tries to honor those requirements.
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10069 Jhimmibhob19th Mar 2013 10:12:53 AM from Arm's reach of the julep machine , Relationship Status: My own grandpa
Do gay people exist in the Star Wars universe? Maybe it's like Star Trek: "they exist, but the network won't let us show them"?

Not sure ... does C3PO count?

edited 19th Mar '13 10:13:04 AM by Jhimmibhob

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10070 Polarstern19th Mar 2013 10:38:49 AM from United States , Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Yeah, Gabrael ninja'd me.

Navy allows Jedi on your tags too.
"Oh wait. She doesn't have a... Forget what I said, don't catch the preggo. Just wear her hat." - Question Marc
10071 BlueNinja019th Mar 2013 12:21:02 PM from Hiding in the corner , Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Sailing the big blue sea
does C 3 PO count? - Jhimmy
Only if you're shipping him with Donut.

I'm surprised about the Jedi military thing, because I don't remember it being an option when I went through boot camp, and there's generally so much hassle involved for anyone who's not Judeo/Christian I didn't think it was serious.
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10072 LMage19th Mar 2013 04:04:40 PM from Miss Robichaux's Academy , Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Evil Trickster
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Heheh. Check out the "Same Gender Romance" argument for Star Wars: The Old Republic.

re: Jedi Religion

...I would like to take this time to point out the Jedi are basically, magical Buddhist Monks mixed with Medieval Knights.

edited 19th Mar '13 4:07:30 PM by LMage

"You are never taller then when standing up for yourself"
I believe there's a character in The Clone Wars cartoon who is confirmed in the expanded universe to be trans.

Interestingly she's a Hutt.

Hutts always seem to have interesting sexuality.

10074 rmctagg0926th Mar 2013 05:29:39 PM from Brooklyn, NY , Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
Hutts are naturally hermaphroditic since they're gastropods.
Hugging a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.

It's typed rmctagg09.
10075 joeyjojo26th Mar 2013 06:01:17 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies!
Happy New Year!
[up][up][up][up]When did you go through? Basically a few years back they was a push to get for people to put jedi on their census forms as a joke and it took off[1].

Basically if enough people say they're jedi they government has to treat it as if it's a real religion. No matter how blatantly false.
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