LGBT Rights and Religion:

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Discussion of religion in the context of LGBT rights is only allowed in this thread.

Discussion of religion in any other context is off topic in all of the "LGBT rights..." threads.

Attempting to bait others into bringing up religion is also not allowed.

edited 4th Oct '13 8:26:43 AM by Madrugada

8651 DrunkGirlfriend8th Feb 2013 08:16:47 AM from Castle Geekhaven
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8652 Morgikit8th Feb 2013 08:19:13 AM from    Alabama    , Relationship Status: In season
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I must agree with Kay. When I think of Food Porn I think of something different.
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[up][up] Great, now you made me think of Fred Phelps coming back as a Zombie after he finally died.

His hatred for the unworthy can't keep him dead.

edited 8th Feb '13 8:19:53 AM by kay4today

8654 DrunkGirlfriend8th Feb 2013 08:20:00 AM from Castle Geekhaven
[up] Hey, at least then we'd have a legitimate reason to shoot him. tongue
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Implying we don't already...
8656 HilarityEnsues8th Feb 2013 08:55:00 AM from Standing between Sho'Nuff and total supremacy. , Relationship Status: Naked on a bearskin rug, playing the saxophone
Also can somebody tell me this: Are the boy scouts an actual religious organization? Like I know they are heavily affiliated with it but are they actually a religious organization?

They were certainly not founded as one. The gay/atheist ban was not originally part of their policy, and this sort of discrimination was something they were openly opposed to before the Mormon Church became their top financial contributor.

Even now, it's very obvious that they're not really a religious group and are just concerned about who's writing their paychecks. Hence why they're considering lifting their ban on gays the moment several of their donors decide to stop funding them because of said ban.

edited 8th Feb '13 8:55:29 AM by HilarityEnsues

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8657 Wildcard8th Feb 2013 09:00:27 AM from Somewhere in the galaxy
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Maybe somebody should of pointed that out when some lady in the article told the scouts to "stick to their principles" huh?
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8658 Achaemenid8th Feb 2013 09:04:30 AM from Blades , Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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The original boy scouts were founded by Sir Robert Baden-Powell, a British war hero and possibly repressed homosexual (oh, the irony, it is delicious). I was in the boy scouts in Britain, and I don't believe we ever discriminated, though I would have been to young to care or comprehend if we did.

edited 8th Feb '13 9:04:44 AM by Achaemenid

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Hey, at least then we'd have a legitimate reason to shoot him.

Lol!

Great, now you made me think of Fred Phelps coming back as a Zombie after he finally died.

His hatred for the unworthy can't keep him dead.

A newly resurrected Phelps: You thought your world was safe. It never was. It was all an illusion, designed to give you comfort. Enjoy these final moments of peace. For I am returned. And I will have my vengeance.

So.....shall we begin??

edited 8th Feb '13 12:35:53 PM by TheStarshipMaxima

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8660 Meklar8th Feb 2013 12:46:28 PM from Milky Way , Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
I dunno about other people, but I don't consider girls gobbling down dead meat very attractive.
2 Girls 1 Steak.

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[up] Thank you Meklar for proving once again that TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life.
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8662 Morgikit8th Feb 2013 01:40:11 PM from    Alabama    , Relationship Status: In season
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I still think Phelps is only a minor villain with too much free publicity, but I am curious about one thing. If Yahweh is about to carpet bomb the US, why haven't they left? Maybe they think god is out to kill everybody, but as the True Believers, their deaths will be quicker and therefore less painful?
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I somehow doubt logic is one of the WBC's strong suits.
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[up] Accurate post is accurate.
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8665 Wildcard8th Feb 2013 01:49:22 PM from Somewhere in the galaxy
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I think the WBC decided that everybody else regardless of faith was a non-believer and therefore a worse person than they were. Then they conveniently forgot the "Love thy neighbor" so he could be an asshole.
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The WBC regard almost anyone who does not follow their exact theology or something close to it as essentially devil-worshippers. This includes Catholics, and Protestants who do not preach against homosexuality. As far as I recall, they also subscribe to an extreme form of Calvinism, meaning they believe in predestination to the extent that converting people isn't worthwhile because God has already determined who will and won't go to Heaven (possibly wiht only 144,000 going to Heaven, which will of course include them).

This means they feel justified in sitting around and being gloating assholes.
Back to the old (lack of a) face.
144,000? That is a ridiculously small number.

Seriously, that's less than the population of a small city.

edited 8th Feb '13 2:15:16 PM by Elfive

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8668 DrunkGirlfriend8th Feb 2013 02:19:45 PM from Castle Geekhaven
[up] It comes from the book of Revelations, where it makes even less sense, because it's only talking about Jewish descendants from the original twelve tribes.

So if you take it to mean those are the only people getting into heaven, gentiles are screwed anyways.
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As far as I recall, they also subscribe to an extreme form of Calvinism, meaning they believe in predestination to the extent that converting people isn't worthwhile because God has already determined who will and won't go to Heaven (possibly wiht only 144, 000 going to Heaven, which will of course include them).

This may be the single biggest crock of horseshit in this timeline and the following 4,763 others.
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If Yahweh is about to carpet bomb the US, why haven't they left? Maybe they think god is out to kill everybody, but as the True Believers, their deaths will be quicker and therefore less painful?

Near as I can tell, they think they're going to get the same deal Lot did vis-a-vis Sodom and Gomorrah. Which, uh... may be why the Phelps clan includes so many daughters...
What's precedent ever done for us?
8671 Vericrat9th Feb 2013 03:59:05 AM from .0000001 seconds ago
Like this, but brown.
[up]It's 7 in the morning where I'm at, and after having read that, I don't think it's too early to drink anymore.
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8672 Wildcard16th Feb 2013 10:00:08 AM from Somewhere in the galaxy
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At least Phelps gets the less obvious bigots taken less seriously. The more he pickets soldiers funeral the more likely people will try to fight against everything he stands for. He's still an awful person doing awful things though.
Whatever tomorrow brings I'll be there. With open arms and open eyes.
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Can't the IRS find some tax evasion shit they can just lock him up over?
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8674 Wildcard17th Feb 2013 05:13:02 AM from Somewhere in the galaxy
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I think he pays his taxes. Though they could conceivable arrest him under child abuse charges.
Whatever tomorrow brings I'll be there. With open arms and open eyes.
8675 Morgikit17th Feb 2013 06:42:19 AM from    Alabama    , Relationship Status: In season
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Why are we trying to get him arrested again? Isn't that a violation of his freedom of speech? Granted, he's protesting funerals instead of giving his chicken sandwich money to anti-gay groups, but legally, he's allowed to do so, right?

Also, am I the only one who thinks the focus on Phelps is an excuse not to deal with the more dangerous people out there who have better PR? Pat Robertson and the pope have called non-heteros a threat to mankind (not womankind though, cause they're sexists) and nobody's calling for their arrest. Fred Phelps isn't the king of the homophobes, though he may think he is.
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