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LGBT Rights and Religion:

Discussion of religion in the context of LGBT rights is only allowed in this thread.

Discussion of religion in any other context is off topic in all of the "LGBT rights..." threads.

Attempting to bait others into bringing up religion is also not allowed.

edited 4th Oct '13 8:26:43 AM by Madrugada

Princess Ymir's knightess
@Meklar

It's like with a horrible car accident. Sometimes you can't help but stare.

 8627 Polarstern, Thu, 7th Feb '13 12:03:22 PM from United States
@Arch, what form of action does knighting and that sort of thing fall under in the UK?

 8628 Blue Ninja 0, Thu, 7th Feb '13 12:04:31 PM from The Middle of Nowhere Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Slowly dying on the inside
You're saying that a Rousing Speech is devoid of influence? - Iaculus
Of course it has influence, but after that, we still (usually) hold individuals responsible for their actions. Generally, the social stigma and legal actions levied are higher for an action than a speech.

I'd prefer to live in a world where the racist and homophobe can say their peace, and I can make fun of them for their bigotry - Vericrat
[awesome]

You keep using us whenever you need a gay example. - kay
Probably he just doesn't want Polar's wife to bomb his house "by accident". evil grin

Sometimes you can't help but stare. - kay
The power of boobies compels him!
Once the avalanche has started, it is too late for the pebbles to cast their vote. - Ambassador Kosh
 8629 Morgikit, Thu, 7th Feb '13 12:07:13 PM from Lavender Town Relationship Status: In season
Queen of Foxes
@Beer: It's the smell. Makes me nauseous.

[up][up][up]Now I'm imagining a guy watching two girls hold hands and "Untitled" by A Simple Plan (the "how did this happen to me" song) is playing.

@Catholic bishops: "Yes, homosexuals and immigrants deserve to be treated with dignity and compassion. But if you happen to be a member of both groups, go back to Mexico, fag."

edited 7th Feb '13 12:10:40 PM by Morgikit

Nya

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 8630 Pykrete, Thu, 7th Feb '13 12:22:08 PM from Viridian Forest
NOT THE BEES
Imagine when we get to the issue of Outer Space Alien marriage.

Apparently we already have a thing ready to go to baptize them.

It's actually a good question. I mean, if the Catholic thing is about producing children, what happens if we run across Asari or something that can get offspring from anything with a pulse?

edited 7th Feb '13 12:22:19 PM by Pykrete

 8631 Wildcard, Thu, 7th Feb '13 12:28:40 PM from Somewhere in the galaxy
Go! Fly! Win!
@Morgikit: At least it is changing. Slowly but surely America and a lot of other places are getting better about this. They probably won't face much punishment from saying it but they will at least lose some support.
Whatever tomorrow brings I'll be there. With open arms and open eyes.
 8632 pagad, Thu, 7th Feb '13 12:56:06 PM from perfidious Albion Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Sneering Imperialist
what form of action does knighting and that sort of thing fall under in the UK?

The Queen awards knighthoods based on nominations, not on her own initiative.

See here
NCC - 1701
I step away for five minutes and the thread get weird. And hilarious. And awesome. Man, I love you guys.

Re: Censoring countries and sovereign states - The thing about Russia, Uganda, Iran, et al; I don't think the issue with with their "words" so to speak. It's more than those countries are first-degree offenders in disrespecting freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, etc.

Countries with eased freedom of speech also tend to be the ones that have a modicum of respect for dissenting opinions.

edited 7th Feb '13 1:08:22 PM by TheStarshipMaxima

It was an honor
 8634 Polarstern, Thu, 7th Feb '13 1:41:27 PM from United States
Haha my girl's a greasemonkey/computer nut. She works on the radar systems.

There is a difference between the free speech of an individual or a country's policy on protecting individual speech rights, and then a statement from that country as their national stance.

An individual priest can voice his opinions, and many have. But that is completely different than a statement from the Vatican. The statement from the Vatican has authority and is the law of the land. That is seperate from free speech.

Putin is the president, a shady one, but his opinions are honored as law and policy is based off of it.

Again, Uganda's government used their positions of authority to push for a vote making capital punishment against gays.

Countries and governments are not individuals. They do not have the same rights as individuals. They cannot have the same rights. It is not safe.

Hence the examples I gave.

NCC - 1701
Not that you were addressing me in particular but..

Am I correct in saying your position is that the 'opinions' of sovereign states must be more closely monitored and more strigently opposed when it violates civil rights, because unlike people, the line between opinion and action based off said opinion is shorter??

If it is, I'm not sure I could disagree.

Haha my girl's a greasemonkey/computer nut. She works on the radar systems.

Which means she could accidently target my house....waii

edited 7th Feb '13 1:50:45 PM by TheStarshipMaxima

It was an honor
 8636 Achaemenid, Thu, 7th Feb '13 1:51:06 PM from the dear green place. Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Ein kleines Blümelein
[up][up]

Indeed. When you play the game of diplomacy, there are things expected of you. Conformity with the UN Charter, conformity with international human rights lawnote  Countries that do not play by the rules are shunned - North Korea springs to mind.

edited 7th Feb '13 1:51:46 PM by Achaemenid

 8637 Polarstern, Thu, 7th Feb '13 2:23:46 PM from United States
[up] exactly.

[up][up] she doesn't fire missles, but if she did it would never be an accident.smile

NCC - 1701
Note to self: Do not piss off Polar, her kids, or her wife. Addendum: If absolutely must piss them off, do so from some fortified bunker in undisclosed location.
It was an honor
Princess Ymir's knightess
[up][up] That smiley looks disturbing. :V

 8640 Meklar, Fri, 8th Feb '13 12:32:17 AM from Milky Way Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
So apparently lesbian relationships are like horrible car accidents, and lesbians feel inclined to launch interceptor rockets at people.

Well, you learn something new every day...

 8641 Hilarity Ensues, Fri, 8th Feb '13 6:29:31 AM from Standing between Sho'Nuff and total supremacy.
Now, let's say the come in, I stare at them for a while and continue eating my meal. When finished, the server comes to bring the bill, and remarks at how cute the lesbian couple is. I make a remark like "Well, if you say so. Personally, I could've gone without seeing that."

Alright Starship, this is where I have to draw the line. Differing political/religious beliefs are all fine and good and part of what makes us human. Not believing Girl on Girl Is Hot, however, is first-degree thoughtcrime.

Princess Ymir's knightess
[up] You mean Girls Eating Ribs Is Hot, right?

 8643 Blue Ninja 0, Fri, 8th Feb '13 6:52:05 AM from The Middle of Nowhere Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Slowly dying on the inside
[up] Because you're a lesbian couple, the restaurant will ensure all of your ribs are from female animals to ensure it's still Girl on Girl Is Hot. tongue
Once the avalanche has started, it is too late for the pebbles to cast their vote. - Ambassador Kosh
NCC - 1701
[up][up] Oh my God. Please tell me that's a trope!

[up][up][up] Girl on Girl Is Hot?? I had no idea. (starts whistling)

[up][up][up][up] I gotta say, I do wonder how these threads must look to someone who's not a regular.

"Wait, Let Me See If Ive Got This Straight. They constantly Godwin everybody. They're at each other's throats one minute and then they all buddies the next. The defend bigoted statements on one page and then call for the WBC to be deported the next. They alternate dogpiling and defending each other. They come up with the most insane analogies. And on top of this there's some idiot derailing the discussion with some stupid Star Trek metaphor that somehow relates to the topic. What the hell is going on there??!"

[up] Wildcard, now you HAVE TO open that ribs and beer joint just so this can all happen in Real Life.

edited 8th Feb '13 6:56:56 AM by TheStarshipMaxima

It was an honor
 8645 Wildcard, Fri, 8th Feb '13 7:11:21 AM from Somewhere in the galaxy
Go! Fly! Win!
@Hilarity: Whoa whoa! Hey! It totally is but you shouldn't blame him for that. Why else would he be staring if he didn't believe in Girl on Girl Is Hot?wink

@Starship: Sorry Maxima, but that would interfere with my dream of being a space fighter-pilot: http://www.sega-saturn.com/saturn/software/shockwave.htm

edited 8th Feb '13 7:57:59 AM by Wildcard

Whatever tomorrow brings I'll be there. With open arms and open eyes.
NCC - 1701
[up] If you need assistance the Enterprise is standing by.
It was an honor
 8647 Wildcard, Fri, 8th Feb '13 7:16:54 AM from Somewhere in the galaxy
Go! Fly! Win!
Won't happen tis only 2019. Enterprise won't be built for another century.
Whatever tomorrow brings I'll be there. With open arms and open eyes.
NCC - 1701
[up] Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey

Because you're a lesbian couple, the restaurant will ensure all of your ribs are from female animals to ensure it's still Girl on Girl Is Hot. tongue

Wait, wouldn't that make it Girl On Girl Is Delicious?? (beat) Too far?

It was an honor
 8649 Wildcard, Fri, 8th Feb '13 7:26:27 AM from Somewhere in the galaxy
Go! Fly! Win!
I don't think so Ship. Too far hasn't been crossed too often here. Also I'll consider opening the rib joint once the alien invasion is over.

Also can somebody tell me this: Are the boy scouts an actual religious organization? Like I know they are heavily affiliated with it but are they actually a religious organization?
Whatever tomorrow brings I'll be there. With open arms and open eyes.
Princess Ymir's knightess
I dunno about other people, but I don't consider girls gobbling down dead meat very attractive.

But that might be just me.

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