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LGBT Rights and Religion:

Discussion of religion in the context of LGBT rights is only allowed in this thread.

Discussion of religion in any other context is off topic in all of the "LGBT rights..." threads.

Attempting to bait others into bringing up religion is also not allowed.

edited 4th Oct '13 8:26:43 AM by Madrugada

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And? That'd be equal too. I was just saying you can't call the current situation unequal, not that legalizing gay marriage is unequal.

Edit: No, I had seven responses. You can tell because my post is a response to the latest of those seven responses.

edited 18th Nov '12 6:05:32 PM by Ultrayellow

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
 5152 Lawyerdude, Sun, 18th Nov '12 6:15:39 PM from my secret moon base
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@Ultrayellow: What, exactly, is your point?
What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.
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You're point is so illogical I just read it in stephen colbert's book. Let's move on.

 5154 Fish 1, Sun, 18th Nov '12 6:21:31 PM from Lovecraft Country
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Huh. Guess my monitor is playing tricks on me then.

edited 18th Nov '12 6:34:33 PM by Fish1

Indeed.
 5155 joeyjojo, Sun, 18th Nov '12 11:07:03 PM from Opp North Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
Yes, and anti-miscegenation laws were perfectly fair because everyone had the right to marry someone of their own race.tongue
Brilliant DG [lol]

I do think you have kind of got a point Ultrayellow, they is nothing stopping two gay people from marrying each other providing they are of the opposite sex. Nothing discriminatively about that, not at all.
Unity in diversity
 5156 Blue Ninja 0, Sun, 18th Nov '12 11:46:18 PM from The Middle of Nowhere Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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To rerail ever so slightly from Ultra, I had a friend of mine post this link on Facebook. I'm curious if people would consider it a valid website to help determine which house of worship to choose from. Doesn't really help me, I'm an atheist and I don't think my wife is converting away from barely-Mormonism. tongue
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 5157 Deviant Braeburn, Mon, 19th Nov '12 12:02:40 AM from Dysfunctional California
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Dear beards of Celestia, that site looks archaic.

Hire a graphics designer. This isn't 2003 anymore, that stuff doesn't fly anymore!

edited 19th Nov '12 12:02:52 AM by DeviantBraeburn

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[up]Wow — when did those gifs get off the arc? Haven't seen a site like that for a while... Have they done any format update since their launch? surprised

Well, not that that means anything: most charities update only when they've got the funds/ run into somebody willing to give it a shot. <shrugs>

[up][up]They're as valid as the next parish newsletter, mate. smile Read and see what you think, in short.

edited 19th Nov '12 12:12:38 AM by Euodiachloris

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 5159 Morgikit, Mon, 26th Nov '12 11:01:56 AM from Lavender Town Relationship Status: In season
 5160 Kostya, Mon, 26th Nov '12 11:04:39 AM from Everywhere
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This should make me feel rage but it doesn't. I just feel like saying "Whatever."

edited 26th Nov '12 11:04:49 AM by Kostya

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That's one of the more....exotic...explanations I've ever heard.

So wait, does that mean that people like me who openly fraternize with gays and bisexuals are also demon bait? The things you learn via this site.

Well, it's true TV Tropes Will Ruin Your Life.

edited 26th Nov '12 11:35:28 AM by TheStarshipMaxima

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 5162 Drunk Girlfriend, Mon, 26th Nov '12 11:43:18 AM from Castle Geekhaven
@Morg: Yeah, that's old hat as far as I'm concerned. Right up there with "being gay means you're possessed!"
"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
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@DG, Morg, et al,

The next time someone comes at you with that, I'd like to personally request that you respond with, "Oh my gosh! I had no idea. I thought demons only made you adulterous assholes that leave your wives for a younger mistress."
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 5164 Drunk Girlfriend, Mon, 26th Nov '12 11:50:19 AM from Castle Geekhaven
[up] But see, demons do that too. And they create bad weather (unless it's due to the wrath of God), and they create the temptation to eat ice cream sundaes for dinner, and all sorts of other stuff.
"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
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this reminds me of the time one of my insanely devout christian friends remarked she was having a bad day on facebook and was wondering why Satan personally had it out for her that day. It struck me as kind of overly self-important.
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But see, demons do that too. And they create bad weather (unless it's due to the wrath of God), and they create the temptation to eat ice cream sundaes for dinner, and all sorts of other stuff.

[lol][lol]!! That's a good one.

@Midget - Not self-important. It's this thing that many allegedly devout Christians have where they blame everything on everyone else but themselves. If they're poor, it's God's will, not their own poor spending habits. If they're unhealthy and not fit, it's God allowing the Devil to make them that way, not their own lack of discipline.

Most horrifically, I recall a Christian couple that actually coerced their child into getting an abortion, because they couldn't allow Satan to ruin their daughter's life.

And now you start to see why I get livid when you guys compare those people to us true Christians.
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I meant self-important in the sense she seriously thought the Lord of all Evil took time personally out of his day to ruin hers instead of any chance it might have been random chance.
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[up] I know, I was just elaborating on your point.
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 5169 Haldo, Mon, 26th Nov '12 12:34:23 PM from Never never land Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
Indecisive pumpkin
I apologize if this has been brought up already, but I'd like to point out that all but one of the Bible passages that are typically cited as being anti-gay are basically misinterpretations.

For example: Sodom & Gorath. Long story short, what happened in that story was that God was alerted that these towns were horribly sinful, so He decided to observe them more closely. On that day, a man came to town looking for a place to stay, but when he finally found a house that would take him in, word spread of the outsider's arrival, and so the men from the towns surrounded the house and demanded that the outsider come out so they could have sex with him.

This was war rape. It was a rather common intimidation tactic at the time that the story took place. This story is referred back to many times in Bible, and it's always referred to as an example of extreme inhospitably. Of the times that it is referred back to, only once is there any mention of the crime being sexual in nature.
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Haldo, excellent point. If I hear ONE more person say that God destroyed Sodom over homosexuality, I'm going to puke.
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 5171 Drunk Girlfriend, Mon, 26th Nov '12 12:51:45 PM from Castle Geekhaven
Yeah, it's a linguistics problem at this point though. The whole Sodom/sodomy connection.
"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
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It's not linguistics. It's bullies looking for a bully pulpit. I know the reasons I don't approve of homosexuality. I don't need to invent shit.

Again, this is why I hate when you guys mix-up the posers with us.
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 5173 Haldo, Mon, 26th Nov '12 12:56:23 PM from Never never land Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
Indecisive pumpkin
There's literally only one passage in the Bible that can be taken as anti-gay, and that's the Leviticus thing. And even that is suspect when you remember once non-Jews started getting admitted to the religion, they weren't upheld to the old laws (remember, Leviticus is one of the old law books). The only laws that were still taken seriously were the ones that were mentioned repeatedly in many law books (which does not include homosexuality).
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Ah, yes, the whole "Well does abomination really mean abomination?" Sorry, that passage seem pretty crystal clear to me.

You can't read the Bible and take the words on the page for what they are, but suddenly now, there's a question of "did this mean this".

Nevertheless, like I said, don't invent passages in Scripture.
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 5175 shimaspawn, Mon, 26th Nov '12 12:59:35 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Only in the translation you have. The original text is perfectly clear that it does not mean what you think it means.

You didn't invent it, no. But you're still purposely using a bad translation.

edited 26th Nov '12 1:00:03 PM by shimaspawn

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