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Fresison Since: Feb, 2012
#1: Apr 1st 2012 at 12:06:13 PM

Im Your Biggest Selective Fan is mentioned in three articles. I guess that counts as "Not thriving".

Moreover, it's a piece of fan bashing — some sort of strange Take That! towards people who declare themselves to be 'fans' of one thing or another but lack the knowledge needed in the eyes of the true fans. Just look at some of these entries: "There are many people who claim to be Monty Python fans, but actually only like or know the films. If they have heard of the original series at all they usually think it's not funny because it's too absurd and intellectual." Because all people who prefer the MontyPython films over ''Flying Circus'' are idiots, obviously.

There isn't a single case of this occurring In-Universe. If someone finds a few examples of characters saying "I'm your biggest fan!" & knowing only the person's most famous work we might save it. Otherwise, let's just cut it.

Oh, and it's a stock phrase.

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#2: Apr 1st 2012 at 12:28:51 PM

I'm not convinced this is a trope. Most of the examples are simply "numerous fans of some author don't know all of his work".

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#3: Apr 1st 2012 at 12:41:01 PM

The only possible trope here is calling on the Logical Fallacy of some claiming they are the true fans because they know more of someone's work.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Gentleman Troper!
#4: Apr 1st 2012 at 12:44:21 PM

[up] You mean No True Scotsman?

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#5: Apr 1st 2012 at 2:22:28 PM

More like "I'm a true Scotsman, while that wannabe Scotsman doesn't do X".

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
Routerie Since: Oct, 2011
#6: Apr 1st 2012 at 3:26:41 PM

Once we delete all the non-specific "you often meet people who..." entries, this'll only have two examples, both filed under Real Life.

Fresison Since: Feb, 2012
#8: Apr 1st 2012 at 3:49:09 PM

Do we want tropes with only Real Life examples?

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Gentleman Troper!
#9: Apr 1st 2012 at 3:59:25 PM

[up] Obviously not.

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#10: Apr 1st 2012 at 4:05:10 PM

"Like in No True Scotsman?"

No. That is more trying to move the goalposts in a position that is proven faulty. This is about trying to pass oneself as part of a group and exclude others.

You're assuming the connection on the name, not the actual point of the definition.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#11: Apr 1st 2012 at 4:09:45 PM

This is about trying to pass oneself as part of a group and exclude others.

"Passing oneself as part of a group" is irrelevant. This page is just about excluding people/things who/that would already fit a particularly broad category (in this specific case, "fans of X"), and so is No True Scotsman.

edited 1st Apr '12 4:10:04 PM by SeanMurrayI

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#12: Apr 1st 2012 at 4:15:46 PM

Whatever it is, it isn't a trope. It's an excuse for editors to preen and pat themselves on the back about how much more knowledgeable they are about <artist> than those posers who claim to be fans.

Cut it.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#13: Apr 1st 2012 at 4:36:10 PM

[up][up]Okay, I should clarify. When I wrote "The only possible trope here", that is what I meant. Then again, I probably got some communication wires crossed.

So the page as it is, is not a trope.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#14: Apr 1st 2012 at 5:05:26 PM

Looks like it's been cut. Hollering for a lock.

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