Ambiguous Name: Battle Royale With Cheese get usage counts

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Apparently, this is where the Grand Finale inflicts a Disney Death on the entire cast, only to bring them back for the final battle.

Really, the title seems to imply a particularly Cheesy Fight Scene. Worse still, it mentions it's a reference a scene from Pulp Fiction without actually explaining what that scene is. And our page for Pulp Fiction doesn't explain it, either.

Perhaps a name like Final Battle Resurrection would be better? Something that makes what it is clearer, at least.
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A cursory look at a few links shows at least three instances where it seems to be used as "cheesy final battle." This should be more closely looked at.
3 MarkVonLewis29th Mar 2012 08:09:39 PM from Somewhere in Time , Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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Yeah, from the title I thought it was a really cheesy battle.
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Then this is really a case of the name being "misused" instead of "ambiguous".
5 Morven30th Mar 2012 11:10:33 AM from Seattle, WA, USA
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Misuse due to really bad, non-indicative trope name. Let's dig into its wicks and see how widespread the problem is ...
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6 Morven30th Mar 2012 11:18:09 AM from Seattle, WA, USA
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First fifty:

So if this is a representative sample, 68% of wicks are misuse. If that's not an indication that the name is bad, I don't know what is.

edited 30th Mar '12 11:48:22 AM by Morven

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7 SeptimusHeap30th Mar 2012 11:20:19 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Usually the amounts of wicks to check is either 50 or the square root of the wick number, whichever is bigger. Details are on How to Do a Wick Check.

And it's also useful to note how it's being misused.
8 Morven30th Mar 2012 11:23:15 AM from Seattle, WA, USA
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It's almost entirely being misused to mean 'extra cheesy final battle'. Not surprising, given that that's the literal meaning of the name.

Checking more to get it more statistically significant.
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What, no one's misusing it to mean "a final battle held in France using the metric system"? evil grin

Yeah. Worst Pulp Fiction reference evar.
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10 Morven30th Mar 2012 11:48:51 AM from Seattle, WA, USA
Nemesis
Expanded to fifty, no great difference in the results. Two thirds of the wicks are wrong.
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11 SeptimusHeap30th Mar 2012 11:54:06 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
I might be jumping the gun here, but if I see a trope that is getting more than 50% - assuming that [up] can be read as this - misused (or just any number like that) for the trope name rather than the trope I ask for a rename crowner ASAP.
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I don't think I've ever seen this one used correctly. Rename.
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13 Morven30th Mar 2012 12:05:23 PM from Seattle, WA, USA
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Any objections to jumping straight to an alternative names crowner here? I think the misuse is widespread and obvious enough to point to a rename as the only option.
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14 SeptimusHeap30th Mar 2012 12:06:29 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
[up]None from me. More than 50% misuse is definitively in need of intervention.
15 Ryusui31st Mar 2012 05:37:19 PM from In The Middle Of A Field
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16 Deboss1st Apr 2012 08:18:41 PM from Awesomeville Texas
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18 Spark92nd Apr 2012 07:37:26 AM from Castle Wulfenbach , Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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I concur.

And yes, when we have this large amount of misuse, we really don't need a popularity contest to see how many people like the current name. Let's just fix it.
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19 JimmyTMalice3rd Apr 2012 04:35:23 AM from Ironforge , Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Yep, this trope just seems to be named for an Incredibly Lame Pun about Battle Royale and a burger called Royale With Cheese.
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More that these Battle Royal resurrections are really cheesy. Whats the point of a death scene in the a Battle Royal ( big fight with lots of separate encounters intercut together, not the book) if there is going to be Resurrection Reset Button pressed during the climax or after the battle is won.

I do not like Final Battle Resurrection as this does not have to happen in the Final Battle just a Climatic one where a death scene can serve a narrative purpose. (Naruto vs Pain did this in Naruto and it was nowhere near the Final Battle)

The description does need to be rewritten though. Do we have a trope where the Adventure Party or such end up encountering a fight and one stays while the others continue on because someone must make it to their target? (usually ends up vs the Designated Rival) because that is probably the most key aspect of this trope. EDIT: I guess it is part of Dwindling Party but that should probably be split up by the types oh well..

Climatic Battle Resurrection?

edited 3rd Apr '12 5:00:06 AM by Raso

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Raso, you're looking for The Rest Shall Pass.
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22 SeptimusHeap3rd Apr 2012 11:53:35 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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24 SeptimusHeap3rd Apr 2012 12:42:46 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
I edited Climatic Battle Resurrection to Climactic Battle Resurrection in the crowner as a likely typo.
25 Ryusui8th Apr 2012 09:40:24 AM from In The Middle Of A Field
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Climactic Battle Resurrection is good - it doesn't have to be the final battle, after all. ;)
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Alternative Titles: Battle Royale With Cheese
3rd Apr '12 11:15:08 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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