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Best idolIf there's already a thread on this subject, I apologize. One of the hardest things for me to master, besides grammar, is foreshadowing. Mostly because it's hard for me to write it well. What I mean is trying so hard not to make hints and clues so obvious, that the supposed Twist Ending or Wham Episode or Wham Line comes across as The Un Twist. So I have a question for you tropers: How do you handle Foreshadowing? Have you had difficulties with it before?
edited 17th Mar '12 10:47:50 AM by Masterofchaos
Don't draw too much attention to your hints. Harry Potter has lots of examples of foreshadowing that don't seem important at the time, so the audience doesn't think about them enough to predict the reveal.
edited 17th Mar '12 10:45:05 AM by RTaco
Ahr riverI tend to lay it on pretty thick. But I don't worry about it, because every interaction I make is always way more subtle and minor than I initially thought it was when I was writing it.
I've always had a problem with making foreshadowing (or anything else) in my work too subtle because it seemed too obvious to me.
Ahr riverDoes that change for you if you read it later on?
What? No, I mean my own foreshadowing seems so obvious that I always dial it down, but since it seems more obvious to me then anyone else, this inevitably reaches a point in which it's too subtextual to be picked up on by readers.
Ahr riverNo, I mean does it seem less obvious to you in later read throughs when you don't edit it?
No. Although the point I was trying to make is that I'm not (and the OP shouldn't) be the most reliable source for how obvious foreshadowing is in our works.
Fuzzy Orange DoomsayerIn general, Narrative Filigree makes a good hiding place for this. If you only mention irrelevant-seeming things a few times in the story, it'll be easy to tell that those things are actually relevant. (To draw an analogy, if you're DMing a tabletop game, and you have statues come to life and attack the players, they'll only be surprised if you've previously included statues that didn't attack them.)
edited 17th Mar '12 8:10:43 PM by feotakahari
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Ahr riverOr if the things you include are so numerous and take so long to pay off, it appears at first that they are just little details (see: Arabella Figg from Harry Potter)
Isn't that pretty much the same thing? Harry Potter always struck me as a good example of the kind of thing feotakahari is talking about (as well as its dark side - ever heard of 'Mark Evans'?)
edited 17th Mar '12 9:01:01 PM by nrjxll
Ahr riverMaybe, possibly. But yes, I've heard of Mark Evans. Ahahahah. Aaaah.
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