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Unclear Definition (new crowner 9/18): Planet Eris get usage counts

 76 lu 127, Sun, 3rd Jun '12 11:26:36 PM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
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 77 Spark 9, Mon, 4th Jun '12 6:35:36 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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Okay, that's good. We can remove examples that don't fit the new definition.

Also, numerous people in the thread have suggested we should rename this. Are we agreed on that or does it need another crowner?
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 78 johnnye, Mon, 4th Jun '12 8:36:43 AM from Brighton, UK Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
I'd say rename it.
Zaldrīzes buzdari iksos daor, so Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus.
When I first read the name, I thought it had something to do with dwarf planets, and after reading the description I still find the connection with the trope rather tenuous. So I agree that we should consider a rename. First alternative title that came to mind was Weird World, but that might be a little too generic.
EDIT: Actually thinking about it, that doesn't really fit the trope any better than the current name (though I maintain that it at least sounds better :P).
EDIT 2: Like Reality Except Wackier?

edited 4th Jun '12 2:26:09 PM by Elanorea

 
 80 ccoa, Wed, 18th Jul '12 5:40:03 AM from the Sleeping Giant
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Was anything done here?
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 81 Xtifr, Wed, 18th Jul '12 12:25:02 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Looks like it stalled on the question of whether we should rename.

I think a rename is called for simply because there really is a (dwarf) planet Eris, and people are likely to start misusing it for that, as this recently discovered object starts to appear in works of fiction. Not to mention the fact that it's not a very clear name.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
Oh, so that's what they ended up naming Planet Xena. Suggest we rename this trope to Planet Xena, since that name is now conveniently freed up.

 83 Xtifr, Wed, 18th Jul '12 2:46:09 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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[up]I tend to think that a name which actually makes some sort of sense would...make more sense. :)
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 84 Spark 9, Wed, 18th Jul '12 5:24:22 PM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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I agree that a different name would help here.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
Help to do what?

 86 Xtifr, Wed, 18th Jul '12 6:04:20 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Help with clarity and a possible underuse problem? Certainly the former—the latter might be arguable, but I think a case could be made.

eta: if we're going to rename it anyway, to avoid confusion with the actual (dwarf) planet, we might as well pick a decent one. And that's a misuse issue, albeit one that hasn't quite manifested itself yet—but that's probably only because fiction hasn't quite caught up with the real world yet.

edited 18th Jul '12 6:08:06 PM by Xtifr

"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
I'm late to this, because it looks like it's time for a rename-or-not crowner, but I'm worried that the true definition didn't have a chance:
The name Planet Eris makes perfect sense to me, but then, I am a Discordian, so we're used to fnord others not getting it. I think a key element of the trope as it stands is not just a Fantasy Kitchen Sink, but the sheer randomness with which these things appear. Fighting ghosts, then pirates, then aliens, all tied together by a plot that runs on nonsensoleum.
This was what I had always taken the trope to be, and I'm not a Discordian... but the same editor later described this same description as involving a Random Events Plot, which is not the same thing. To me, the definitive element was the sense of "anything goes", that anything from the Fantasy Kitchen Sink could show up at any time (which is not quite to say "new spec-fic elements as the plot demands"), but that the actual events that happen usually actually follow from one another (Sluggy Freelance has a pretty well-crafted Myth Arc). I never took the "everything otherwise appears normal" part of the description to be definitive either; a lot of older tropes on the wiki tended to be overdefined.

Also, comparing this to the All Myths Are True TRS, I can't help but wonder if the meaning of Fantasy Kitchen Sink has broadened over time to encroach on other tropes.

edited 20th Jul '12 5:38:28 AM by MorganWick

 88 Xtifr, Sat, 21st Jul '12 3:42:09 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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[up]Wouldn't surprise me. Fantasy Kitchen Sink is a much clearer name, so I'm not all surprised to find that people have been using it in preference to obscurely named tropes like this one, and gradually broadening it as they do. A better name for this trope might go a long way towards solving that problem.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 89 ccoa, Mon, 17th Sep '12 8:03:09 AM from the Sleeping Giant
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Clocking due to lack of activity.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 90 Spark 9, Mon, 17th Sep '12 8:39:49 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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Well, there is an ongoing alternative titles crowner for this page, since many people in this thread suggest the now-redefined trope also needs a new name.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/crowner.php/AlternativeTitles/PlanetEris
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 91 ccoa, Mon, 17th Sep '12 9:22:23 AM from the Sleeping Giant
With Mod Hat On
There has not been a rename crowner, and that alt names crowner is from July of 2009 from a failed attempt to rename this trope then. Not hooking it and no action can be taken from it.

edited 17th Sep '12 9:32:59 AM by ccoa

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 92 Spark 9, Mon, 17th Sep '12 9:33:20 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
Whoa, is it that old? Okay, I'll make a rename crowner instead.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
 93 ccoa, Tue, 18th Sep '12 7:48:51 AM from the Sleeping Giant
With Mod Hat On
Crowner swapped in.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 94 lu 127, Fri, 7th Dec '12 6:33:18 AM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Setting clock for crowner call.
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 95 lu 127, Mon, 10th Dec '12 12:19:33 AM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Calling for a rename.
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 96 Xtifr, Mon, 10th Dec '12 5:16:41 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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World of Weirdness? Planet Anything Goes? Unconstrained Absurdity?
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
 97 Septimus Heap, Tue, 11th Dec '12 12:52:12 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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I like World of Weirdness.

 98 johnnye, Tue, 11th Dec '12 3:48:59 AM from Brighton, UK Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
I like Unconstrained Absurdity.

World Of Absurd? Planet Absurd?
Zaldrīzes buzdari iksos daor, so Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus.
Ecce Homo Superior
World of Weirdness is my preference so far.
(it's David Bowie)
 100 Xtifr, Tue, 11th Dec '12 7:04:26 PM Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Ok, is that enough suggestions for a name crowner? And are there any reasons not to include one or more of those? (I think they're all workable.)
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.

Alternative Titles: Planet Eris 2
12th Dec '12 2:13:11 PM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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