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Are Japanese players really that skilled at hard games?:

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26 KnownUnknown11th Mar 2012 07:35:13 PM from Here. There. Everywhere.
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I would say that the average intensive player of a certain sort of game will be at a certain mastery of it, and the more widespread the sort of game is the more people with that kind of mastery you find.

Say for Touhou, for example. Bigger in Japan. There are more players of it in Japan (I would think). Japanese players have been at it longer. Thus, a larger percentage of the most skilled players are Japanese.
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27 MoeDantes12th Mar 2012 01:51:34 PM from the Land of Classics
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I think you can blame the original Zelda for the Japanese ramping up difficulty when they export games. That series is more popular in the Western world than in Japan, and the original probably defined Nintendo Hard.

Uhhh... what?

However, that doesn't explain why Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn's (Path of Radiance?) Normal difficulty is the equivalent of Japan's hard. While the series is pretty popular in the West, I think it's still kind of niche.

It's more popular in Japan than in America, considering we never got the first six or so installments.

I just know we like Zelda more than they do, and the original two were brutal.

.... *Looks at his gold carts. Raises an eyebrow*

Are we talking about the original NES Zeldas?
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I thought Ao L was pretty tough around midgame and then the last dungeon was a bit rough.
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29 KnownUnknown12th Mar 2012 01:56:12 PM from Here. There. Everywhere.
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It's worth noting that NES games (and to a lesser extent, SNES games) were in general harder than the average game we get these days anyway.
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The same could be said for that whole generation of games in general.

Wasn't until the saturn/n64/PS1 era did games on average decline in difficulty.
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33 MoeDantes12th Mar 2012 04:05:01 PM from the Land of Classics
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[up][up]I could disagree with that. I felt a sharp decline in difficulty in the 8->16 Bit transition.

Although, it got worse in the 16->32-bit transition.

And... Decline in difficulty IS NOT the same as a decline in quality. That's a lesson I've learned all too well. Dude above is right in that most of the time, "challenge" is just a matter of poor design (screw you, Ninja Gaiden and Checkpoint Starvation. Just screw you).
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