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Deadlock Clock: May 12th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
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#1: Mar 4th 2012 at 12:37:42 PM

On top of relying quite heavily on the text, the visual parts are a bit ambiguous. The character on the righthand side looks like a girl, so it might give a first impression of being about lesbianism. You might say that looking like a girl is part of the point, but really, one doesn't need to look that much like a girl to be camp enough to be Mistaken for Gay.

I think a better to do a juxtaposition of a Camp Straight character acting camp in one panel, and being affectionate towards a female character in the next. For a more specific suggestion, Ken from Toy Story 3...


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#2: Mar 4th 2012 at 1:51:02 PM

[up]I like it. I think it's an improvement.

I'm not a big fan of the pose in the top-half though.

edited 4th Mar '12 1:52:14 PM by DrStarky

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#3: Mar 4th 2012 at 2:38:04 PM

I think the Eskimo kiss in the bottom frame is enough. Would be nice if his ascot (?) was visible. There are probably other frames of that Ken looking campy and courting/smooching Barbie.

edited 4th Mar '12 2:39:59 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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#4: Mar 4th 2012 at 2:49:29 PM

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edited 23rd Jul '17 2:31:42 PM by Jicragg

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#5: Mar 4th 2012 at 5:25:44 PM

[up] JAFAAC, we're trying to illustrate the straight aspect.

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#6: Mar 4th 2012 at 6:00:51 PM

[up]You don't understand. That image is supposed to have the eskimo kissing image below it.

[up][up]I think the first one would work great for the top half.

edited 4th Mar '12 6:01:45 PM by DrStarky

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#7: Mar 4th 2012 at 6:17:59 PM

Ascot!Ken paired with the "kissing Barbie" pic works for me.

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#8: Mar 4th 2012 at 6:50:07 PM

Here's a horizontal arrangement.



One problem is that, shrunk to that size, it makes the kiss look a little awkward for Ken, which would be counterproductive. However, there are plenty of potential alternatives to the eskimo kiss scene.
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edited 4th Mar '12 6:58:19 PM by HiddenFacedMatt

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#9: Mar 4th 2012 at 7:05:30 PM

"....shrunk to that size, it makes the kiss look a little awkward for Ken..."

???

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#10: Mar 4th 2012 at 7:10:24 PM

[up] Well, to me it looks like he's squinting his eyes. Not sure if anyone else notices it.

Anyway, I'll probably come up with a variety of options for both the "camp" part and "straight" part tomorrow.

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#11: Mar 4th 2012 at 7:24:26 PM

  1. Didn't even notice that. Looks like his eyes are just closed normally, to me. It's the other frame that looks weird IMO.
  2. Those two ideas can probably be communicated by one frame...

edited 4th Mar '12 7:26:13 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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#12: Mar 17th 2012 at 8:42:35 PM

[up] Both look weird in their own ways for different reasons. The guy's facial expression looks a little weird in the first, but at least it clearly demonstrates the "camp" part. The second leaves some room for ambiguity in the "straight" part.

Anyway, I pretty much forgot about the thread until now, but here is one alternative for the "camp" part:




Here are the scenes they are from, in case anyone wants to make alternate screenshots of them.

edited 18th Mar '12 7:41:01 AM by HiddenFacedMatt

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#13: Mar 18th 2012 at 8:49:31 AM

[up][up] Those two aren't bad at all.

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#14: Mar 18th 2012 at 1:11:52 PM

That seems like the image equivalent of a "two unrelated characteristics" trope like Badass Furry. One separate frame for each word in the name.

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#15: Mar 19th 2012 at 12:35:52 PM

I dunno, 12.2 shows him wearing a rather campy outfit, yet holding near to a girl, implying he's straight... I see it.

edited 19th Mar '12 12:36:07 PM by ShadowHog

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#16: Mar 19th 2012 at 1:15:48 PM

[up] Same here, although the one where they're kissing might make it more clear.

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#17: Mar 20th 2012 at 5:26:55 PM

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edited 23rd Jul '17 2:31:18 PM by Jicragg

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#18: Mar 20th 2012 at 6:08:15 PM

Larger version of the previous screenshot for the "straight" part:


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#19: Mar 20th 2012 at 6:10:54 PM

Would like to get one image that says both. I don't think one image for "camp" and one for "straight" is a good idea.

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#20: Mar 21st 2012 at 10:05:33 PM

I think Ken's fabulous wardrobe is good enough to show his camp levels in that picture of him and Barbie.

edited 21st Mar '12 10:06:57 PM by lycropath

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#21: May 9th 2012 at 4:15:59 AM

Clock is set. Crowner?

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#22: May 13th 2012 at 12:13:46 PM

[up] Too late now anyway, clock's up. May as well put up the last Barbie and Ken one.

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#23: May 13th 2012 at 3:13:24 PM

[up] Agreed; it's up, potholed, and tagged. Locking up.

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