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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#1: Mar 2nd 2012 at 12:40:53 AM

This trope is "protagonist turns out to be the monster"; however the image is "something is written on a mirror".

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#2: Mar 2nd 2012 at 3:51:30 AM

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#3: Mar 2nd 2012 at 9:55:13 AM

It's a very hard trope to picture, but the current one does have some vague implications that it may be true. I don't think it suggests something else, though.

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#4: Mar 2nd 2012 at 10:11:02 AM

[up] and [up][up]: Then perhaps we could have a better caption? Because I have no idea what the picture represents, who that girl is, or why it's an example. It's not quite JAFAAC but it's close.

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#5: Mar 2nd 2012 at 10:30:43 AM

I'm guessing she's a Cylon. Cylons are bad, or at least discriminated against. The downside of the pic is that it's not all that clear whether she realises it. Someone who's actually familiar with the series could probably come up with a better caption than I.

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#6: Mar 2nd 2012 at 10:34:13 AM

Yeah, there's all kinds of bad blood between Cylons and humans. The only thing that comes to mind right now is "Someone knows."

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#7: Mar 2nd 2012 at 10:36:18 AM

What is a Cylon?

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#8: Mar 2nd 2012 at 10:37:14 AM

To be fair, though, if you've never even heard of Battlestar Galactica, you'll have no idea what a Cylon is or why this could be construed as a bad thing.

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Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#9: Mar 2nd 2012 at 10:50:44 AM

[up] The whole bit about writing it on the mirror is a typical sign of "people don't like them."

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#10: Mar 2nd 2012 at 11:17:16 AM

Would be nice to know it's a "them". "Cylon" is just a word I don't recognize.

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#11: Mar 2nd 2012 at 11:44:03 AM

[up][up] Really? I've never heard of that. Is that a trope?

I find that people write clues about a murderer on a mirror, or possibly answers to a TV quiz, or maybe their name or phone number if they like you. It is far from clear in the image that "cylon" is meant as a threat of some sort.

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#12: Mar 2nd 2012 at 12:33:45 PM

[up] It doesn't need to be a mirror. The most common specific example is probably writing "fag" on a locker, but on cars or doors also happens, or any flat surface you expect the person to look at.

At any rate, I'm not familiar with the example, but what I've said is how I'd interpret it.

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#13: Mar 2nd 2012 at 4:44:29 PM

[up] Again: really? I've never heard of that. Is that a trope?

I'm not trying to be obtuse here, I've seriously never heard of people writing "fag" on a locker (or mirror) in an attempt to insult anyone, nor do I recall any work whatsoever in which this occurs.

edited 2nd Mar '12 4:45:14 PM by Spark9

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#14: Mar 2nd 2012 at 4:50:29 PM

[up] It should be a trope. I don't know if it's currently a trope, but it shows up in media constantly.

A character's property is defaced by a slur or an insult written in bold letters with the intent of terrorizing the recipient. It's not always fag and a locker, but it's writing in bold letters an insult to someone defacing their property. Cars, desks, lockers, and doors tend to be the common locations. Insults can range from fag to freak, witch, slut, whore, nerd, cheater, terrorist, traitor, or even phrases like 'Go home towelhead.'

It tends to show up mostly in media about teenagers, scorned women, or media that deals with civil rights and/or racial tensions.

Generally it's anonymous and it's done to illustrate the views of the community against this one person rather than point to a single source of bullying.

edited 2nd Mar '12 4:57:22 PM by shimaspawn

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#15: Mar 2nd 2012 at 4:57:28 PM

[up] Okay, but then I must conclude that the image here is not an example of "tomato in a mirror". She must already know that she is a tomato, because otherwise she'd not understand why people write such words on her mirror. Rather, the image illustrates a trope like I Know Your Secret or I Know What You Did Last Summer.

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#16: Mar 2nd 2012 at 5:12:44 PM

[up] Nope, the current picture is an example of the trope. Seeing the word there was what triggered her realization. Something like "They're right. I am a cylon." Might make a clearer caption.

edited 2nd Mar '12 5:13:41 PM by shimaspawn

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#17: Mar 2nd 2012 at 5:13:56 PM

Would be nice if the caption said (or implied) something about what a "cylon" is. AFAIK it's just a word.

edited 2nd Mar '12 5:14:18 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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#19: Apr 16th 2012 at 4:44:05 AM

Well, there are no suggestions for a better image, but we still need a better caption (especially for the people who have no idea what "cylon" means).

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#20: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:08:55 AM

"Finding out you're a toaster can't be a good way to start the day." (that's actually used in the show IIRC)

"Boomer finally meets the enemy face-to-face."

Beyond those, I got nuthin'.

edited 16th Apr '12 6:09:23 AM by Willbyr

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#21: Apr 16th 2012 at 6:38:36 AM

I'm afraid I don't know what a "toaster" or "boomer" is, either.

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#22: Apr 16th 2012 at 9:38:02 AM

"Toaster" is the generic slur humans use to refer to Cylons in the new Battlestar Galatica because they're organic machines. Boomer is the pilot code name for the character in the picture.

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#24: Apr 17th 2012 at 2:02:43 AM

As Shima suggested earlier, "They're right. I am a cylon." ?

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#25: Apr 17th 2012 at 4:17:55 AM

[up] It works, but it's completely blah to me.


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