Rename (alt titles 7/31): Deus Ex Nukina get usage counts
Deadlock Clock: 10th May 2012 11:59:00 PM
edited 29th Feb '12 8:14:04 PM by LouieW
edited 29th Feb '12 8:34:53 PM by Stratadrake
Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
edited 1st Mar '12 3:46:38 AM by Spark9
- This is a situation where nukes and only nukes will do. Something Very Bad has happened, and only an uncontrolled release of nuclear energy can fix it. Occasionally, you get the curious situation where nukes are being used to fix a problem created by another nuke. Deus Ex Nukina is distinct from Nuke 'em, because the application of a nuclear bomb solves a problem. Such applications are sometimes contrived and occasionally approach the arbitrariness of Green Rocks.
- Nuking is the only solution.
edited 1st Mar '12 6:33:08 AM by Catbert
- Nuclear Option: Nukes when they are good.
- Nuke 'em: Nukes when they are bad (or overkill)
- Deus Ex Nukina: A nuke cannot do that.
- Nuclear Option: The consequences of using a nuclear weapon is less than the consequences of not using it (used or not)
- Nuke 'em: Jumping straight to the overkill of nuking, usually because Armies Are Evil
- Deus Ex Nukina: Only a nuke will solve the problem (behaving unrealistically is a common feature, not a requirement)
edited 1st Mar '12 7:48:24 AM by Catbert
- A Nuclear Error: During the Cold War (and even since), fiction has made some inaccurate assumptions about nuclear weapons and nuclear weapons policy.
- Artistic License – Nuclear Physics: Both nuclear weapons and peaceful nuclear technology are enormously technical in nature. Since Hollywood never lets boring facts get in the way of an engaging yarn, this allows some truly mind-bending violations of physics to make it by most audiences.
- Deus Ex Nukina: This is a situation where nukes and only nukes will do. Something Very Bad has happened, and only an uncontrolled release of nuclear energy can fix it.
edited 1st Mar '12 8:34:58 AM by Catbert
edited 1st Mar '12 8:40:14 AM by ccoa
edited 1st Mar '12 8:54:23 AM by Catbert
http://web.archive.org/web/20071231013348/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NukeEm When faced with a Monster Of The Week, military commanders show an unhealthy urge to move right up to the nuclear option when the monster can't be killed with bullets. They never stop to consider using something else in their arsenal that's a bit more powerful than an M16, but won't cause as much collateral damage as a low-yield nuclear bomb. It's all or nothing. If rifles didn't do the trick, forget howitzers, forget 1,000 pounder bombs, forget chemical or biological agents, just get the nukes. More level-headed characters will usually try to make this point, only to be told that there's "no time" to study the monster, we have to take it out now before it gets bigger/destroys more things. From there, it becomes a race to see if the scientists can find the monster's Achilles Heel or get the Forgotten Superweapon back online before the Army gets its approval to start lobbing warheads. Of course, if the Army wins the race, it's likely that the nukes will either do nothing, or make things much, much worse, making the heroes the last hope. Anime doesn't use this much, due to the Nuclear Weapons Taboo.
http://web.archive.org/web/20090420050653/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeusExNukina? a.k.a Nuke Ex Machina by those who don't know their Canis Latinicus. This is a situation when nukes and only nukes will do. Something Very Bad has happened, and only an uncontrolled release of nuclear energy can fix it. Deus Ex Nukina is distinct from Nuke Em, because the application of a nuclear bomb solves a problem. Such applications are sometimes contrived and occasionally approach the arbitrariness of Green Rocks. The most interesting dramatic element of Deus Ex Nukina is the requirement that the nuclear device must be delivered by hand. Robots and missiles can't be trusted; nukes are delivered by men. The delivery method is half the fun and often involves physical contact with the device. The bomb should often have a sleek, eroticized design. Frequently, the courier must also make the ultimate sacrifice and stay with the bomb to trigger it manually. Anti-matter sometimes substitutes. Occasionally, nukes are used to fix problems created by nukes.
http://web.archive.org/web/20100624131054/http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NuclearOption Sometimes, the unthinkable becomes a legitimate option. Other times it's downright commonplace. Nuclear warheads are currently the most powerful weapon in humanity's arsenal. They are the most destructive thing we have the capacity to deploy, and as such are treated as a last resort, a final option when all other possibilities are exhausted. They are to be used only when the consequences of not using them are worse than the consequences of using them. This has happened only twice in Real Life; in fiction, however, this situation comes up a lot more often. The Nuclear Option is the well-considered and appropriate use of nuclear weaponry by a legitimate authority. Perhaps the enemy has already launched nukes at allied targets, or maybe Its The Only Way To Be Sure. Maybe the target is Nigh Invulnerable and a nuke is the only way to crack through its protections, or maybe some Cool Starships are flinging nukes at each other in otherwise empty space. Maybe the situation is already so bad that the potential for massive collateral damage doesn't matter anymore. In any case, the Nuclear Option is, ultimately, a good idea, or at least reasonable. Unlike an Empty Quiver, the Nuclear Option is ordered by a legitimate authority; unlike Nuke Em, it's neither overkill nor likely to backfire; and unlike Deus Ex Nukina, the nuke does something that actually makes sense. Also applies to the use of Fantastic Nukes and, if the Nuclear Weapons Taboo is in effect, absolutely-not-a-nuke weapons.
edited 1st Mar '12 9:28:16 AM by Catbert
- Nuclear Option
- Nukes used as a weapon when the consequences of not using them is worse.
- Nuke 'em
- Nukes used as a weapon and the go-to solution of the evil, trigger happy military
- Deus Ex Nukina (renamed to something else)
- Nukes used as a tool (as opposed to a weapon) to solve the current problem. Sometimes requires them to have powers/applications that real nukes don't.
edited 1st Mar '12 10:02:52 AM by ccoa
edited 1st Mar '12 11:51:02 AM by Catbert
edited 1st Mar '12 12:01:19 PM by ccoa
Single Proposition: Deus Ex Nukina
31st Jul '12 4:33:09 AM