you didn't prove that all of those weapons have non-combat uses, because I just proved the opposite re: warhammers. Martello is Italian for hammer and I'm not referring to the kind you use to drive in nails.
Uh... using a weapon in hunting is use as a weapon. And a hunting sword is very much a thing.
Again, I'm not trying to make my own point about how swords are the only weapon that can only be used for killing people (ccoa
put it better than I could). I'm saying that this is a reasonable line of thought about swords that shapes their use in stories.
The Weapon of Choice
tropes in general are pretty lax about enforcing whether the example adheres to whatever association the weapon is supposed to represent for the character. I think that's a good thing. We don't want the tropes to be broad to the point of being called out as People Use This Weapon
. Nor do we want to have to keep splitting hairs, adding new subtropes, and cutting examples because they don't fit neatly. Tropes Are Flexible
; they do a decent enough job.
So I feel that we shouldn't go overboard with dissecting the sword trope into rigid subtropes assigned to individual meanings. It's frustrating, arguable
, and not fun. I brought the other possible meanings up as a reason for not using the name Swords Are Heroic
and to contribute more elements to defining Heroes Prefer Swords
as a subtrope of Weapon of Choice
. A sword supertrope may still prove necessary, since swords are very prominent in media and have lots of uses, but it should be a trope and explore the most common meaning(s) rather than being an index for sword-related tropes (we have one
edited 5th Mar '12 2:49:36 PM by Treblain