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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#1: Feb 22nd 2012 at 4:11:01 PM

Duuuude! The page Totally Radical is, like, Totally Broken! I mean the wicks are most all over the place. I mean, we have some mondo proper use of this trope, which is any attempt to airquote "attempt to connect with the youth", usually through, like, market guys. But some wicks seem to think the trope has to do with turkeys or something, or thinking that any bitchin' use of slang is this trope, even if it's, like, correct. And some wicks seem to think this trope is about any reference to the "cool" culture of the most awesome decades of all, The '80s and The '90s! High five!

Psyche! Too slow!

Anyway, I suggest we have to do some gnarly fixing on this trope:

I also checked about... uh... a lot of wicks and stuff.

Proper use:

Jive Turkey or any use of slang:

80s and 90s culture:

Outright totally using this, like, wrong:

Finally, if you ask nicely, I won't post in this style again.

edited 22nd Feb '12 4:15:42 PM by DragonQuestZ

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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#2: Feb 22nd 2012 at 4:16:13 PM

Won't do it again? Are you kidding? That was the most awesome TRS thread starter ever!

I do like the name, but I can see how it can be a problem.

Totally Radical Coolness Fail perhaps?

edited 22nd Feb '12 4:17:50 PM by Catbert

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#3: Feb 22nd 2012 at 4:19:00 PM

Duuude, DQZ is like, totally giving lessons on how to open TRS with style.

But yeah, this page looks very natterish too.

edited 22nd Feb '12 4:19:16 PM by lu127

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#4: Feb 22nd 2012 at 4:21:10 PM

The Dragon Quest IX is correct IIRC the priest was trying to sound hip but ended up using out of date slang (For the player).

edited 22nd Feb '12 4:21:48 PM by Raso

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#5: Feb 22nd 2012 at 4:27:58 PM

[up]I thought he was a Surfer Dude who became a priest, rather than this trope.

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#6: Feb 22nd 2012 at 4:29:57 PM

The example says in Batsurg? seems a little unlikely but maybe... I cant remember so many of the priests in that game have funky speech patterns....

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#7: Feb 22nd 2012 at 4:36:23 PM

Well it still seemed to be more spoofing that way of talking than trying to connect with the kids.

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pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Feb 22nd 2012 at 5:48:13 PM

A long time ago, I launched two tropes, one about the immortality of Totally Radical 80s lingo in advertising, and the other about Flanderization in 80s period pieces. Ultimately, that material was assimilated into The80s, Totally Radical, and a couple of other more general tropes.

crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
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#9: Feb 22nd 2012 at 6:42:02 PM

You sure crazy taxi is correct? I played it and thought it was Jive Turkey.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#10: Feb 22nd 2012 at 6:48:57 PM

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Crazy Taxi is Jive Turkey. It's meant to be silly.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#11: Feb 22nd 2012 at 7:02:16 PM

I'd be okay with taking action here. Some sort of rename or transplant or something.

edited 22nd Feb '12 7:02:32 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#12: Feb 22nd 2012 at 7:03:04 PM

Agreed. There's more misuse than correct use.

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#13: Feb 22nd 2012 at 11:08:57 PM

Not being able to custom-tag TRS threads anymore is a major bummer. Creative muse demands an outlet!

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pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#14: Feb 23rd 2012 at 8:55:54 AM

As far as what the trope description says, the phrase Flailing Pop Culture Mimesis sprung to my mind as a rename. I think the name Totally Radical can probably just become a redirect to The80s.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#15: Feb 23rd 2012 at 9:14:35 AM

Parts of the 90s also included that stuff, which is why I think we should have a trope for the "cool" culture around that time, as there are examples that cover that.

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pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#16: Feb 23rd 2012 at 9:28:35 AM

If "that time" is about 1981 to about 1992, that's the eighties, more or less.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#17: Feb 23rd 2012 at 9:57:03 AM

Well giving that, it's still more about the "radical" culture than the decade in general.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#18: Feb 24th 2012 at 12:05:46 AM

So what do you all think is the best to do here?

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pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#19: Feb 24th 2012 at 12:23:36 AM

I found what happened to my last attempt. Still The Eightiess is now Two Decades Behind. Totally Radical could redirect to Two Decades Behind, merging the best bits. My suggestion is to proceed cautiously.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#20: Feb 24th 2012 at 12:25:54 AM

That trope is not locked into that decade, so that wouldn't really work.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#21: Feb 25th 2012 at 11:12:30 AM

Also, I'm going to look at Jive Turkey and see if it needs help.

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pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#22: Feb 26th 2012 at 1:51:26 PM

So, should Totally Radical be an early 80s to early 90s specific trope about lingo, fashions, and pop cultural touchstones? Or am I misunderstanding the direction you want to explore.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#23: Feb 26th 2012 at 2:09:02 PM

[up]You got it right.

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arromdee Since: Jan, 2001
#24: Feb 27th 2012 at 2:41:23 PM

Totally Radical does have a lot of overlap with Two Decades Behind. It's about trying to appeal to kids based on mistaken adult ideas about kids—one of the ways these ideas can be mistaken is that they are two decades behind, but they can also be exaggerated or wrong in other ways.

I don't think it need be specifically about 80's and 90's. Even Totally Radical itself says that the slang can be misdated or awkwardly misused. Having awful unrealistic 2010-era slang is still Totally Radical even though it has nothing to do with the 80's and 90's.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#25: Feb 27th 2012 at 3:17:37 PM

Bad slang is Jive Turkey, not this.

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