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Media namespaces -- a battery of questions:

This is the sticky thread for questions related to the namespacing of works. As in, "which is the right namespace for this work?"

Ideally, questions already answered are covered on the Namespace Map. If you know a namespacing issue has already been resolved, but it is not yet documented on the Map, please update the Map.

If you want to suggest a new namespace, don't post here, but in Suggesting New Namespaces instead.
Original OP: 

edited 22nd Jul '13 6:47:29 AM by Willbyr

I updated the Sandbox.Namespace Map to the best of my knowledge. Please correct or update if needed.
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 127 Oreochan, Wed, 4th Apr '12 2:35:04 PM from Pennsylvania
Can we restart conversation about what we should do about our missing animation namespaces once Web Original/ is done?

I believe I made a thread for them a few months before this one was made and Eastern Animation was split. If I can find it, can we reuse it rather than starting a new thread?

Also, do actors/actresses and voice actors go to Creator/?

Edit: It's here.

edited 4th Apr '12 2:44:55 PM by Oreochan

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 128 Earl of Sandvich, Wed, 4th Apr '12 2:57:50 PM from the Palouse Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
I'm also wondering about the actors/creators situation. It is a bit confusing, isn't it?
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 129 Septimus Heap, Wed, 4th Apr '12 2:58:28 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Actors and creators go to /Creator/.

 130 Earl of Sandvich, Thu, 5th Apr '12 9:18:23 AM from the Palouse Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
Another question regarding the Disney namespace:

Since I heard it's "All Disney animated films" and not just the Disney Animated Canon, what about Pixar films (particularly since it didn't officially become Disney property until 2006) and the animated shorts?

edited 5th Apr '12 10:12:11 AM by EarlOfSandvich

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[up]On the Disney question: what about Disney characters? Example: Mickey Mouse (I think only the main four (mouse, duck, dog and... whatever Goofy is) have a page). Since comicbook characters go under comicbook/ (except Batman... though that's also a franchise page), should they go under Disney/?

Need to make a character namespace thread eventually.

edited 5th Apr '12 3:14:30 PM by Jicragg

[up] A Character/ namespace was suggested a while ago in this thread, but it didn't really get rolling.
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I'm not saying that but a definite discussion on where characters should go. Just a yay or nay vote on going to their respective medium really.

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Per the reorganising of WebOriginal/, I'm not 100% if Video Games Awesome! is a LetsPlay/ or "just" a WebVideo/. It's not on the Let's Play list, nor is it referred to as such anywhere on the page. Especially in the pre-live videos (like Harley Davidson Road Trip and New Super Mario Bros.) and the Minecraft build challenges; it's not quite a walkthrough either.

 135 Troacctid, Mon, 9th Apr '12 3:16:49 PM from California
All that seems like good evidence that it's not a Let's Play.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
 136 Earl of Sandvich, Mon, 9th Apr '12 5:38:21 PM from the Palouse Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
[up][up] I would say kind of, but it's not strictly a Let's Play from what I observe, come to think of it.

Anyways, since the reorganization and all, I'm trying to determine where to put The Abridged Series. WebVideo/ may be the most sensible choice (as ccoa said in the namespace thread during the crowner), but seeing as it's not live-action (for the most part)... What would have easily fit them best (FanVid/ for instance*) have been struck down in the crowner, so I don't really know...

edited 9th Apr '12 5:40:19 PM by EarlOfSandvich

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 137 videogmer 314, Wed, 11th Apr '12 9:44:37 PM from that one place Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
What will we do with pages about video game consoles?

 138 bwburke 94, Thu, 12th Apr '12 11:27:40 AM from Massachusetts Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
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Video game consoles have been on my mind for a while. I suggested a Product/ namespace for them a while ago, but then they'd just turn into advertisements.
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 139 Earl of Sandvich, Thu, 12th Apr '12 11:29:49 AM from the Palouse Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
A lot of them have served as Useful Notes and/or indexes. I'm not quite so sure about what namespace they would potentially fit in...

I'm still waiting for an answer to my question, because I'm not sure how to act on this.
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Where would pages like this go, WorldBuilding/?
 
Also, is the proper namespace Script/ or Scripts/?

ETA: I'll just assume Script/ is correct since we generally don't use plurals for works namespaces. We only have three on Scripts/ on one on Script/ as I'm posting there. There are some more that are currently under the WebOriginal/ namespace that could be moved there.

edited 15th Apr '12 1:42:46 PM by movie007

 
 142 St Fan, Mon, 16th Apr '12 7:23:47 AM Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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Is this the right place for suggesting brand new namespaces, or is there a specific thread for this yet?

I have two specific namespaces that I think should be useful to add:

First, a PuppetShow/ namespace for the series within the Puppet Shows index. They are clearly distinct from live-action shows and animation (even though, as specified on the index page, they can have sometimes live-action actors).

Also, a Gamebook/ namespace could be useful for Choose Your Own Adventure type of books. It can be considered a sub-namespace of Literature, but they have quite specific tropes in themselves (notably some video game tropes) that set them apart.

edited 16th Apr '12 7:24:02 AM by StFan

 143 Septimus Heap, Mon, 16th Apr '12 7:25:50 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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[up]I think that usually we create new work namespaces with their own Wiki Talk threads.

 144 Earl of Sandvich, Mon, 16th Apr '12 7:14:13 PM from the Palouse Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
Updated the Namespace Map again to accomodate for more recent developments (ie Animation/* and Fanworks/* being authorized)
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 145 St Fan, Tue, 17th Apr '12 3:04:19 AM Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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You can also add Script/, PuppetShow/ and Gamebook/ as namespaces that have been proposed, but not yet started.

It's recent, but I've began the discussion in this thread.
Ok, I used to be the one leading the /Disney namespace transition and it kinda slid off...the move to namespace all works has kinda brought it back by accident. But the original project was to only move the Disney Animated Canon. That said, the reason was because of work collision and because of Disneyfication - so much of Disney's stuff is adaptations, often of stuff that has been adapted many other times, and in some cases there were non-Disney animated adaptations as well. (And to make things more confusing, Disney later went and did live action films of some of their films...The Jungle Book, 101 Dalmatians...and stage adaptations of Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King...) In short, if a work has an adaptation that is "The Disney Version" that is signifigantly distinct from the original to warrant a separate work page, it could fesibly go in /Disney. We just wanted to move the animated canon over completely, deeming it would be confusing to have some of them in the namespace and some not. So it was a cross between a series namespace (like /Discworld) and a media namespace.

...but that discussion happened at least three years ago, and a lot has changed around here since then. So I would not call it a closed debate.

Personaly, I would say Disney and Pixar works that are not adaptations and not Disney Animated Canon should go to the media namespace instead of /Disney.

edited 18th Apr '12 6:41:51 PM by Elle

 147 Willy Four Eyes, Thu, 19th Apr '12 1:00:46 PM from Darby, PA, USA Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
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How about Actor/ and Voice Actor/ for live-action actors and those who work mainly in animated productions and video games?

EDIT: This might be problematic for actors who've also directed a lot of films (Clint Eastwood, Ron Howard, etc.), but it might be a start...

edited 19th Apr '12 1:04:30 PM by WillyFourEyes

 148 Troacctid, Thu, 19th Apr '12 1:07:43 PM from California
[up] They go under Creator/.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
Suppose "Comic Strip: The Boondocks" were split into two different pages. I would suggest that the TV show fall under Western Animation.

And the Main namespace will be restricted to tropes, indexes, and disambugation. Right?
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 150 Fighteer, Mon, 23rd Apr '12 10:02:37 AM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Woops, misread. Yes, Main is only for tropes, redirects, and disambigs. If The Boondocks needs a multi-medium landing page, it would go in /Franchise/, but I don't really see the need for one in this case.

edited 23rd Apr '12 10:03:35 AM by Fighteer

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