Media namespaces -- a battery of questions:

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This is the sticky thread for questions related to the namespacing of works. As in, "which is the right namespace for this work?"

Ideally, questions already answered are covered on the Namespace Map. If you know a namespacing issue has already been resolved, but it is not yet documented on the Map, please update the Map.

If you want to suggest a new namespace, don't post here, but in Suggesting New Namespaces instead.
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edited 22nd Jul '13 6:47:29 AM by Willbyr

451 lu12711th Feb 2013 04:27:03 AM from 七夜 , Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Then again, we have manhwa namespaced at webcomic, a la Tower of God.
452 SeptimusHeap11th Feb 2013 04:30:11 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Likely because Manhwa/ is less known than Manga/
453 videogmer31411th Feb 2013 11:42:04 AM from that one place , Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Given that Axis Powers Hetalia is under Webcomic/, despite it being published in print and getting an anime version, web-based manga should go under Webcomic/, too.
454 SeptimusHeap11th Feb 2013 11:48:33 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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Hmm. That namespace change is pretty recent (27th Dec '12), and I remember we had a discussion about how to handle work page namespaces when they are created under a namespace different from the one that respects the first medium.
455 StarSword12th Feb 2013 07:36:40 PM from somewhere in deep space , Relationship Status: In denial
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Thread is tl;dr, so: game mods with their own works pages? I note at least two entries on the Game Mod Index use the namespace Game Mod/, but that namespace isn't listed on the Namespace Map.

edited 12th Feb '13 7:38:33 PM by StarSword

456 Fighteer12th Feb 2013 07:40:35 PM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
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I tend to think of game mods along the same line as fan works. Sometimes you end up with a product popular enough to spin off into its own franchise, though. I'd say Video Game, honestly.

edited 13th Feb '13 11:08:16 AM by Fighteer

457 videogmer31412th Feb 2013 08:16:13 PM from that one place , Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
[up] I agree. If you mod a video game, what you created does not cease to be a video game.
They go in VideoGame. The ones in GameMod will need to be moved.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
I've noticed that some comic books have the namespace "Comicbook", while others have "Comic Book". Here are two examples with the two different namespaces:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ComicBook/TheMightyThor

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Comicbook/FantasticFour

Is there some reason for this? "Comicbook" is grammatically incorrect, so shouldn't they all be under "Comic Book"?

edited 21st Feb '13 4:02:21 AM by Tuomas

460 SeptimusHeap21st Feb 2013 07:15:39 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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See The Problem with Pen Island. They are the same thing.

However, submitting a custom title should only happen with Comicbook/; doing it with ComicBook/ breaks the custom title.
461 Fighteer21st Feb 2013 07:46:39 AM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Yes, people are creating pages in Comicbook/ because of the custom titler being wonky.

The wiki is case-sensitive in some places but not in others. It's kind of screwy.

edited 21st Feb '13 7:46:56 AM by Fighteer

Sorry if asking something obvious, but what are "custom title" and "custom titler"?
463 Fighteer21st Feb 2013 08:27:20 AM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
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Where should I move The Phantom of the Opera? It was originally a novel, but the Lloyd Webber musical has far outstripped that in terms of fame, and the page itself starts by saying "The novel was adapted into this musical". I think it should be in Theatre/ because that's what most people are familiar with.
465 SeptimusHeap6th Mar 2013 05:08:03 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
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The page is entirely about the musical. No idea why it would go into Literature/ except to confuse people.
466 Spinosegnosaurus776th Mar 2013 07:05:59 AM from Somewhere , Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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Fantastic Mr. Fox: Should definitely go in "WesternAnimation/" (unless someone wants to make a page for the book).
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467 Xtifr6th Mar 2013 03:00:20 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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Actually, Phantom of the Opera is a novel, a film (possibly more than one), and a musical. And if you check the wicks, I have no doubt you'll find examples referring to all of them. I'd probably put it under Franchise/, with redirects from Literature/, Film/, and Theatre/, and maybe rewrite the description a little. (I just did something similar with Perry Mason and Fu Manchu.)

The current description may actually be discouraging people from adding their non-musical examples to the page.

Note that more-than half the indexes are about the film(s). The Lon Chaney version is particularly well-known.

eta: [up]I added a redirect from Western Animation. The page clearly covers both, and we generally prefer to have the page at the original medium if there's more than one and the page covers both, but we also like to have at least a redirect if other media versions are well-known.

edited 6th Mar '13 3:12:17 PM by Xtifr

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In uffish thought
Literature.Fantastic Mr Fox should I think be moved to Western Animation/ and have a Literature/ redirect. It's all very well to put multimedia pages in the namespace of the original, but when it starts out with "This is an animated film" and has only three tropes for the book, it's a WA page and should be categorised as such.

Phantom of the Opera actually has more tropes in the original novel folder than the famous musical and stuff one. This one is just confusing me now. Franchise/ seems okay.
469 MacronNotes7th Mar 2013 09:15:16 AM , Relationship Status: Mu
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Which namespace would A More Personal Union go?
470 lu1277th Mar 2013 09:38:44 AM from 七夜 , Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
It looks like either a roleplay or a fanfic about Alternate History. Depends on the format, I s'ppose.
471 SeptimusHeap7th Mar 2013 09:41:11 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Definitively not Roleplay/.

I wonder if we need a new namespace for this sort of thing.
472 Xtifr7th Mar 2013 04:52:58 PM , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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I disagree about Fantastic Mr. Fox. From experience, I can say that it's very intimidating (and somewhat offputting) for a new, inexperienced troper to discover that we have a page about an adaptation when you have an example from the original to place, but that the reverse situation is routine and commonplace, and I can't imagine anyone being bothered by it. Plus, it's a very well-known book from a very well-known child's author. I think it would better to tweak the description to make it clear that it's a page about both.

(We have hundreds, if not thousands, of such dual-purpose pages.)

edited 7th Mar '13 4:53:19 PM by Xtifr

"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
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[up]Seconded.

What should be done when two works under one namespace have the exact same title? Threshold has examples for both a horror and a fantasy book, though only the fantasy book has a page (Literature.Threshold). Append the author's surname, perhaps?

edited 10th Mar '13 2:31:10 PM by LongLiveHumour

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That works.
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