Gundamjack. Name makes no sense to me. Apparently a portmanteau of Gundam something and Jack something.
Seriously, the name doesn't make an iota of sense and is completely opaque to those unfamiliar with the work such as I.
edited 13th Feb '12 4:59:36 PM by Twentington
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It's clearly a play on hijacking, thus gundamjacking.
That being said, it's still seems like a rather bad name since the trope doesn't seem to be limited to Humongous Mecha. Maybe something like Grand Theft Prototype
The concept is simple enough: the characters hijack an enemy vehicle. This seems to have happened a lot in the Gundam series, where characters constantly steal enemy super prototype Humongous Mecha. Hijacked Gundam = Gundamjack.
If you want to make a case for the name being too obscure, go right ahead. But it has nothing to do with Candle Jack.
EDIT: Huh. Could've sworn I didn't take that long to respond to this.
This actually has the redirect Mecha Hijacking and seems to be limited to stealing a giant Super Robot. Gundam is one of the best known this genre so I don't think the name is that bad considering how limited it is.
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Humongous Mecha. That's about it, really.
Gotta agree, Grand Theft Prototype does sound a lot clearer. But there's some inconsistency on the page itself. It's supposed to be about stealing special vehicles; for example, the Gurren Lagann example is just about them taking regular old mecha for themselves, not special ones.
The vast majority of mechajacking examples are in the Anime and Video Game sections. Most of them actually are about stealing prototypes, or at least brand-new models. There aren't that many instances of people stealing regular ol' mass-produced mecha, not enough to warrant a separate trope to my eyes. I suggest we cut those entries entirely and then rename the article.
Of course, that does mean the Gurren Lagann crowd is going to be pissed.
I was going to say that there's no change needed, except "prototype" is something that should be troped.
There's no need to change this from Gundum Hijacking, because Gundam is so prevalent in translations.
But "prototype theft" should be it's own trope.
It isn't misleading, when the trope is "steal enemy Mecha". It is misleading for a more general "steal enemy prototype". Right now the definition tries to be a mix of the two. I think this is a trope in need of a split. The enemy prototype could be a sword, or supersuit; but the current page wouldn't get used that way.
A prototype Cool Car might get a wick, but not a newfangled tuxedo.
@Osmium: The new guidelines aren't "Prove misuse or GTFO".
When checking wicks, also check to see if they are disproportionately from one fandom or disproportionately focused on mecha (compared to the listed examples on the page).
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Final wick count: out of 138 wicks, not counting dead ends, 44 don't fit the definition. 8 of them lack context, so I can't tell for sure, 23 involve stealing normal mechs, 11 involve stealing nor fighters/spaceships/other vehicles, and there are two special cases. There are 97 inbounds.
Phlebotinum Rebel: Bizarrely enough. The main entry makes it sound like it can be any prototype substance/machinery, not just a vehicle.
Star Driver: Debatable. "Samekh" is not a prototype, but unique. I say let it pass.
The highest instance was, unsurprisingly, the Gundam series. Fortunately, the fans as a whole seem to know how to actually handle the trope. The vast majority were mecha-related, but they seemed to know how to handle themselves.
In any case, that's almost a third of the wicks inaccurate. I'd say that warrants a rename, though I'm still not convinced with need a specific "Humongous Mecha Hijacking" trope.
Gurren Lagann needs explanation: the Mechas they start with are ancient tech. The animal men don't manufacture new Mechas. But each Mecha has a unique design. Only in the later part of the series are gundams mass-produced, and those are never stolen. The only Mechas that are stolen are unique, because the designs are never repeated.
It doesn't matter. Even if they're custom-made, they're not Super Prototypes or special cases. The first Ganmen stolen are driven by Mooks. There are thousands just like them. They only become special as the operators themselves gain in power.
Read super prototype:
A similar phenomenon, especially in the Mecha genre, is the Ace Custom, a mass-produced or prototype mecha customized or re-designed for the use of an Ace Pilot, taken from the customized paint jobs of planes used by Ace pilots (particularly the Germans, and especially one) of World War I. These are often essentially Super Prototypes, with the only difference being that it was made after the mass-produced mecha. In addition to a personalized paint job, an Ace Custom may have a tweaked engine, extra sensors, or a distinctive weapon, all keyed to the individual fighting style of its pilot.
Only, in TTGL, they were made before the mass-produced lines. But they are all distinctive, with different weapons and customization.
I was mistaken, then. But under the current definition of Gundamjack, it has to be a newSuper Prototype, one that is either still under or just finished development. I don't think the first-arc ganmen count.
So it still doesn't work. But under that light, I think the definition is a little narrow. Or at least unclear.
I think that's straying into YKTTW territory. And we're getting a little off-topic. We should focus on the fact that the trope name seems to make a lot of people think that this about hijacking Humongous Mecha specifically, instead of Super Prototype craft in general. I'll make a crowner.
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Alternative Titles: Hijack Index
23rd Jun '13 4:41:30 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.