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Improving YKTTW :

 676 Septimus Heap, Sun, 4th Mar '12 3:34:07 AM from Zurich, Switzerland
Another Wizard Boy
Just a question: Is the rest of the winning options in the crowner going to be implemented as well?
 677 Septimus Heap, Tue, 6th Mar '12 9:08:02 AM from Zurich, Switzerland
Another Wizard Boy
Bumping for answering.

[down]Fair enough.

edited 6th Mar '12 9:14:45 AM by SeptimusHeap

 678 shimaspawn, Tue, 6th Mar '12 9:12:22 AM from Here and Now
This is something that is going to take Eddie time to code. Things will be dealt with as they can be.
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Euo will do!
Just spotted a niggle-like issue thingy: if you go straight to a YKTTW's discussion page, you can't see hats 'n stuff. You have to go through the actual YKTTW page and go longhand. It's not that big a deal, but just highlighting it. smile
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^ I've noticed that for a long time, and it is a big deal in certain cases (such as TRS dealing with poorly launched tropes). A YKTTW's permanent URL must display everything that it does on the main listing.

edited 6th Mar '12 7:57:49 PM by Stratadrake

Always late to the posting party....
 682 lu 127, Sun, 11th Mar '12 2:57:46 PM from the City of Chains
I don't remember if it was brought up, but in a YKTTW I'm curently working on, I noticed something. With my draft closed, it shows four hats, but when I open the draft and go below the comments, it only displays three hats.

Bug?
Temptation lies in the forbidden. Some doors should never be re-opened.
 683 Septimus Heap, Sun, 11th Mar '12 3:01:16 PM from Zurich, Switzerland
Another Wizard Boy
Yeah, bug. I've seen it as well and even discussed it here.
 684 Bisected 8, Mon, 12th Mar '12 4:02:37 PM from A damp Welsh hill
Hello? LFG?
I'm not sure if it's just me, but I've found that YKTTW aren't opening. Clicking on the button gives the same ~1 sec pause as I'd expect just before the OP and replies appear and the "read" marker disappears, but nothing else happens.
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 685 Septimus Heap, Mon, 12th Mar '12 4:05:54 PM from Zurich, Switzerland
Another Wizard Boy
Yes, it's happening to others as well.
Seeking for Light
Fast Eddie is aware of it.

For now, to read a YKTTW, use the permanent history link (upper right corner of the header, the chain with a green arrow).

 687 Septimus Heap, Mon, 12th Mar '12 4:30:59 PM from Zurich, Switzerland
Another Wizard Boy
Yes, that's what I've been using myself.
New version YKTTW is up.
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Wasn't there a thing here before?
Thread Hop: someone familiar with the changes should edit YKTTW Guidelines to reflect them.
The child is father to the manOedipus
The "show flags only" button doesn't seem to work for me at all. It just shows all the YKTTWs again. Is anyone else having this problem?

edited 13th Mar '12 10:07:12 AM by girlyboy

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 691 Martello, Tue, 13th Mar '12 10:09:42 AM from Black River, NY
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Yup.
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 692 Septimus Heap, Tue, 13th Mar '12 10:13:41 AM from Zurich, Switzerland
Another Wizard Boy
Yeah, the flag-view button doesn't work so farsad.

By the way, how do the filters work? Do they screen for keywords?
Flag view is back.
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Seeking for Light
Would it be possible to re-implement the "comments added since you last opened the draft have a green check next to them" feature? Scanning down the list of comments (particularly if it's one of the ones with 50+ comments) trying to find the first comment you haven't read yet is less-than-ideal.

 695 Marq FJA, Tue, 13th Mar '12 10:41:49 AM from Saudi Arabia
Hommando rules
The tagging system doesn't seem to be working. I've tagged Band Of Heroes with "Needs examples" and and "Description needs help", but neither it nor any other YKTTW draft shows up when I use the "filter by tag" feature.

 696 Beed 28, Tue, 13th Mar '12 10:44:08 AM from United Kingdom
Beed28
I dunno about you, but the new layout won't let me "open" the entries like draws anymore, instead, it links to the permament page.

Seeking for Light
[up] I think that's deliberate.

However, the new layout isn't causing the green "updates" check to go away, even after the draft has been opened (in the new window) and everything has been read.

@689: I changed the one sentence that needed changing. Something about the tag system should probably be drafted and added at some point, but only the bit about how to reply needed changing on the current page. This is an interface change, not a process or policy change; the YKTTW Guidelines deal almost exclusively with the process and policy.

 698 lu 127, Tue, 13th Mar '12 11:02:02 AM from the City of Chains
I agree the green arrow-thing should be back. It's a very useful feature.
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[up][up][up]It is intentional. That way people can open the proposals up in different tabs just like if you were going through the wiki.

edited 13th Mar '12 11:02:41 AM by Belian

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Green checkmarks are back.
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty

Page Action: YKTTW
21st Feb '12 2:46:37 PM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
At issue:
Issues with current YKTTW setup:
  • YKTTW is often overly-concerned with example-finding as opposed to description-drafting
  • There is a backlog in the current YKTTW system.
  • There isn't enough quality control over what comes out of YKTTW, leading to more work fixing them later.

These are the solution proposals for YKTTW. Please note that they are not mutually exclusive.
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