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Spec Ops: The Line:

 1 Psyclone, Tue, 7th Feb '12 1:19:33 PM from Somewhere else
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http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/22/the-dangerous-game-of-spec-ops-the-line/

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/chemical-warfare-spec-ops/726575

http://kotaku.com/5881363/why-dubai-is-the-perfect-video-game-playground

...anyone looking forward to this? I'm quite torn on the subject. On one hand, I like the idea of a game set in a crumbling Dubai. They could go for a theme of "destroyed beauty" like BioShock. That coupled with a Heart of Darkness inspired plot could make for some atmospheric gameplay.

On the other hand let's see: a terribly implausible premise (a sandstorm destroys THE ENTIRE CITY? And it's simply LEFT TO ROT? No wonder the UAE already banned this), and "mature" content involving horrendous war crimes? Sounds an awful lot like Homefront and we know how THAT turned out.

Anyway, I'm cautiously optimistic. Which if the last few times I was are any indication (Haze, Need for Speed: The Run) this will suck :-(

edited 7th Feb '12 1:19:48 PM by Psyclone

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 2 Vuther A, Tue, 7th Feb '12 1:44:14 PM from Canada Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
I like cheese.
I'm not too sure about its gameplay. It'll have to be awfully atmospheric when really played, because it looked pretty typical to me.
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Is this the game that once had a "Sponsored Video" on youtube titled "New Military Shooter?"

That instantly put me off. Very badly.
 4 feotakahari, Sat, 11th Feb '12 2:59:05 PM from Looking out at the city
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PC Gamer has high hopes.

Also, to quote the article:

Have there really been nine Spec Ops games?! Forgive me, but I havenít played any of them.

(Wikipedia says the eighth came out in 2002, so I guess that's not surprising.)

edited 11th Feb '12 3:00:16 PM by feotakahari

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 5 Sgt Ricko, Sun, 12th Feb '12 1:26:56 PM from Guam, USA Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
And they were among some of the most terrible games in existence. Only reason their franchise probably even survived is because clueless parents or gamers who didn't read the magazines back then thought it would've been a great gift for those into military games back in the PS1 days.
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 6 hnd 03, Sun, 12th Feb '12 1:29:35 PM from [REDACTED]
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I liked Spec Ops: Covert Assault...

I will admit though, Airborne Commando was terrible for many reasons. Including lying on the box art.

edited 12th Feb '12 1:31:39 PM by hnd03

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 7 Psyclone, Mon, 13th Feb '12 8:13:58 AM from Somewhere else
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IGN (yeah yeah, I know) is apparently excited about the same reasons I am:

http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/121/1218554p1.html

This is the part that most interested me:

The characters in Spec Ops: The Line begin as a tight unit, and act in the way that you would expect from squad-based modern war shooters. Walker, Adams and Lugo feel real because they're funny, they bicker, and they're definitely there to help each other out. So far, they're a lot like characters from Army of Two or Bad Company. As the game progresses though, we see a change in their attitudes and demeanour. While you aren't actually playing as these characters, they're each given an emotional arc that gives the game a serious and realistic feel. Their warmth is replaced by solemnity and stress, and the moment they are first shot at by U.S. soldiers and are forced to shoot back in self defence, is the moment that changes them forever.

Nice to see a break from the usual "Shoot those Russians/brown people" military shooter. It's about time we see a story about soldiers being forced to fight fellow countrymen done in a more serious manner.

Also, vibrant colors, i.e. less brown. That alone piques my interest. :-P

edited 13th Feb '12 8:16:03 AM by Psyclone

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 8 Psyclone, Thu, 5th Apr '12 10:37:38 AM from Somewhere else
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New trailer.

Got to say, it looks impressive. And appropriately dark. Maintaining my cautious optimism.
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 9 Psyclone, Fri, 13th Apr '12 8:00:09 AM from Somewhere else
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Some gameplay. Pretty standard stuff, nothing special. I think the story will make or break this.

(Wow, I really am the only person interested in this game on this forum, huh?)
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 10 Vuther A, Fri, 13th Apr '12 8:39:34 AM from Canada Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
I like cheese.
Well, the writing sounds pretty damn great to me.

Dunno about the gameplay though...

edited 13th Apr '12 8:39:44 AM by VutherA

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 11 Sgt Ricko, Fri, 13th Apr '12 9:55:57 AM from Guam, USA Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
[up][up]You're not the only one. Problem is, I've got the same opinion as you do: only the setting and story seem to be what makes this game unique. Otherwise it seems a lot like SOCOM or your typical military cover-shooter.
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Why would I write that?
It looks like it really is trying to break up the monotomy of gameplay with more spectacle focused fights, like the one where you're hanging from a building shooting at guys above you. At the same time that part really looks like a poor man's uncharted but it still looks like a fun game.
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According to the devs, whom I spoke with, this is BioShock in real-life.
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 14 Psyclone, Tue, 8th May '12 11:41:26 AM from Somewhere else
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[up] Wow, quite the modest guy, huh? tongue

...in all seriousness, if that is even 80% true, then this is a buy for me.
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Basically, Dubai is Rapture (and incidentally, Dubai is becoming Rapture in real-life, thanks to the economy). There's a Big Bad who is exactly like a philosophy spouting Andrew Ryan.

You never feel like a superman, either. You need your teammates taking out enemies because you're more or less a Glass Cannon. Tactics are heavily stressed.

The game becomes more and more Darker and Edgier as it goes along.

The other major influence is Heart of Darkness.
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PS. Demo is on PSN and Marketplace.
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 17 Psyclone, Tue, 8th May '12 11:50:04 AM from Somewhere else
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Yes, I realized what you meant, I was just kidding.

This is exactly what I hoped the game will be. Interest levels, high.
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Played the demo. The plot is essentially Apocalypse Now the videogame...

Jonah Falcon
I'm just worried people will overlook Spec Ops as just another Call of Duty military shooter.
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 20 Sgt Ricko, Wed, 9th May '12 9:46:04 AM from Guam, USA Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
For the mainstream public, yeah it's gonna be an issue. But the real concern (that I have, at least) is that it's not showing me anything truly different about itself in comparison to all the other shooters out there. In fact the first thing that comes to mind upon seeing images of the game is Kill.Switch and SOCOM, as well as the typical tightly railroaded level with scripted events. Even the multiplayer concept is deliberately borrowing ideas from COD!

At best I would rent it for the story, but there's no way I'm buying this game!
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Huh? The biggest diff for me is that your squadmates are actually useful, even compared to Mass Effect 3. It's the first time in a long while since AI felt like human players. (The original Unreal Tournament).
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 22 Psyclone, Thu, 10th May '12 10:19:38 AM from Somewhere else
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[up][up] I might wait until a price drop myself. Still, demo impressions have been positive so far.

edited 10th May '12 10:19:51 AM by Psyclone

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 23 Psyclone, Mon, 4th Jun '12 4:22:47 AM from Somewhere else
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OK, so I finally got the chance to play the demo. I really like the environments, especially in the chapter where you zipline from one skyscraper to the other: it really is like Rapture in a sense, you're fighting inside these 5 star hotels and luxurious gyms all ruined and buried in sand. You truly get a Look on My Works, Ye Mighty, and Despair! vibe. Also liked the banter between squad mates. Gameplay wise, it's kind of generic (it feels like a platformless Uncharted with Modern Warfare weapons).

Story wise, I was rather intrigued by the "Radioman", and the recording that you find of him where he confronts an Emirati politician about them having the wealthy and powerful people in the city secretly evacuated while covering up evidence that the storms were coming. Between that and the stuff he says in the trailer, I'm rather curious as to what his motivations are.

We'll have to see where this goes. Truthfully though, I think it's going to be quite middle of the road.

Edit: BTW as if it weren't obvious enough that this is Apocalypse Now in the desert, even the soundtrack has a 70s vibe.

edited 4th Jun '12 4:30:37 AM by Psyclone

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Played the Demo. I think it's a statement of how immersive the game is when I played all the way until the end, looked at the clock, and went, "Wait, I finished the demo already and didn't notice?"

I find the premise intriguing in a way, as well as the question of what turned a battalion of more or less decent US soldiers into the antagonists you see. And I rather like the characters; Nolan North's Captain Walker is a cool customer, Lieutenant Adams is a humorous boisterous bruiser who nontheless gets shit done, and Sergeant Lugo is the commo specialist/sniper who's always annoyingly amusing - or amusingly annoying...

Until they discover that things are going BAD, and then they get their game faces on.

From what the demo has shown, it looks like things aren't quite as clear cut as Konrad setting himself up as an oppressive warlord, given that the recorded distress signal has him sounding like a tired old man who's past the Despair Event Horizon. The Radioman, on the other hand... and CIA is stirring the pot, but are they responsible for how things are going to hell, or are they fighting fire with fire?

Ammo is a bit less than other shooters, though the figures seen are reasonable for a lightly armed Delta team that's just being sent in for recon and not expecting to be in pitched firefights.

Anyhow, I'm definately getting this, hook or by crook, alongside Ghost Recon: Future Soldier. I guess I'll make a trope page for starters.
 
 25 Psyclone, Tue, 26th Jun '12 4:23:36 PM from Somewhere else
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Reviews are starting to pour in. 77 out of 100 on Metacritic, pretty much every review so far has praised the story and the differences of opinion remain with, well, everything else. I'll definitely check it out once it's on sale.

edited 26th Jun '12 4:23:43 PM by Psyclone

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