Is this a phrase, or a proper trope?: Ill Tell You When Ive Had Enough

I just want to be sure. This was made before the issue of stock phrase came up, and I would have hesitated about making this after that.

So is this a proper trope, and if so, what do we call it so it doesn't seem like a stock phrase?

I'd say that it's definitely a trope: the character is determined to continue drinking until they forget/remember/pass out, whatever their goal is, and resists all attempts by others (often the bartender, sometimes friends) to get them to stop. That said, I think there's probably a less line-of-dialogue name for it — right now, the description sounds like it's as much about the phrase as it is about the situation.

It definitely feels like a proper trope. It's a very common extension of Drowning My Sorrows.

edited 6th Feb '12 8:55:42 PM by Deboss

Definitely a trope, I'll say that much.

Fourthed. Is the Stock Phrase enough of a reason to rename?

I would rename from the dialogue title but we'd need to brainstorm a good replacement.

Can we discuss how this is sufficiently distinct from Drowning My Sorrows, though?

edited 8th Feb '12 7:38:04 AM by Fighteer

They're paired a lot of the time, but Drowning My Sorrows is simply drinking because they are upset about something. The character may stop on their own, or be told they need to stop and do so. This is the adamant refusal (sometimes to the point of physical violence or the attempt at it) to stop drinking when they are told they've had too much. It generally follows hot on the heels of Drowning My Sorrows — like Deboss said — a logical extension..

edited 8th Feb '12 8:09:00 AM by Madrugada

Maybe Wont Stop Drinking or Rejected The Wagon?

Those seem more like general alcoholism. This is more that someone is directly asked if they've had enough.

Now since this is a stock phrase, we might not need a rename crowner. But we need some proper alt name suggestions.

The current name doesn't imply drinking at all. To me, it sounds like an angry retort for somebody else getting a little too close to their Berserk Button.

Again, not asking to keep the name. We can find plenty of better ones.

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So what should the definition be that makes this not about the phrase?

Cut Off Point Debate, something like that? With the definition being: guy is drinking too much, bartender tries to stop serving him, argument ensues.

edited 11th May '12 1:58:13 PM by abk0100

Doesn't indicate drinking in involved.

any suggestions here?

Determined Drunk ... Retort?

Determined Drunk Dismissal?

Expired clock and stale again. Locking.