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Can PC classes have their own Character page?:
I was thinking about making a page for Worldof Warcraft PC classes, but is it okay to do it? What gave me the idea was the fact SWTOR has their PC classes as part of the games character page (and yes I know that SWTOR's PC classes are more story driven that World of Warcraft's classes are).
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World of Warcraft article already has a list of the classes. We also have entries for the game's classes on many other pages like An Adventurer Is You. Doing it in the form of a characters page would seem to be pointless — the classes are not characters. I haven't played SWTOR, so I don't know how much personality the game gives to its classes, but it seems to me that it's missing the point to give them a separate article.
PULL TO OPENWhat about the Characters pages for Final Fantasy III and V? Right now, the job classes are listed as characters.
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edited 31st Jan '12 8:59:25 AM by Fighteer
Cure CandyWell for some games such as Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy jobs are pretty much cross over characters. Like nearly every Final Fantasy game has a Dragoon even if it does not run on a Job System and the Dragoon job has its own tropes associated with it across all the works since FFIII. (Makes it into Kingdom Hearts and other places, even Shout Outs elsewhere.) When classes themselves have their own tropes that apply to them they should be listed as such because some tropes are only associated with the class not the character. And classes have their own personality too, They should get their own folder in the character page. Hell Dragon Quest IX the only characterization your party gets is their classes.
edited 31st Jan '12 10:38:18 AM by Raso
edited 31st Jan '12 11:07:14 AM by Fighteer
Cure CandyThey are character tropes about specific things about a character they need to be organized as such and they only apply there. Start a druid character in World of Warcraft and shapeshifting is part of your character in the game. Classes get everything a character does even their own Weapon of Choice, Limit Break, Costume tropes yada they are a character.
edited 31st Jan '12 11:13:25 AM by Raso
Player Characters do not count. Character classes — that is, archetypes or molds — do not count.
edited 31st Jan '12 11:14:02 AM by Fighteer
SWTOR is notably different, in that it's an MMO with a strong role-playing bent. Each class has their own story and character, and lines. That really can't be said for most other MM Os.
edited 31st Jan '12 11:15:01 AM by helterskelter
Warcraft franchise already has a character sheet, Characters.Warcraft. It's about the actual characters in the franchise — you know, Arthas, Thrall, etc.? The ones with names?
edited 31st Jan '12 11:17:25 AM by Fighteer
I think that's what OP means by its own "page". A subpage for the classes.
edited 31st Jan '12 12:47:41 PM by Fighteer
I'm with Fighteer. Classes might have associated tropes but they are not characters and should not be listed as such.
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The 11th GroverI'll also agree with Fighteer. Particularly since classes are almost always covered by one or two tropes. Even in Final Fantasy V, where there are several gameplay tropes covered by each job, you can save time and space by merely listing all of them on the main page (particularly since many share tropes... Squishy Wizard is used for nearly all of the mage classes, for example). And don't even get me started in the abuse of the Weapon of Choice trope on said page.
Azor AhaiI've kind of been wondering about something along these lines- more specifically where works have an Adventuring Party that closely follows the Dungeons & Dragons model, and I forget what it was called, but I believe there was an attempt once to have an YKTTW involving the Thief class.
Five-Man Band, but that only applies in specific cases. Regardless, they are not characters in the sense that we define the term, and do not get Characters pages.
The 11th GroverIn that case, shall I begin cleaning out the character pages for Final Fantasy III and Final Fantasy V''?
Azor AhaiDon't think I expressed myself well. Was kind of thinking of two things. One is the idea which I realize has a trope already- the behavior known as Dungeon Crawling. The other idea is for works that have a team that duplicates or fits closely a Dungeons & Dragons adventuring party (i.e. there will be a fighter, who is typically a bruiser; a Glass Cannon thief, a cleric who plays the role of healer (if female, they will be a White Magician Girl), and a wizard, often squishy). There are some works like Rune Soldier Louie that are literally based on someone's Dungeons & Dragons game, and so have a main cast where each person fits one of these roles exactly. Not to mention things like The Order of the Stick or Darken, which are set in the gaming universe and likewise have a cast where each character will fit one type.
Standardized Adventuring Party from the game's race/class menu, those characters are typically generic to the point where they do not exhibit any Characterization Tropes. Competitive Balance tropes alone do not justify a characters page, in my opinion.
edited 25th Jul '12 7:30:20 AM by Fighteer
edited 19th May '12 3:07:02 PM by MagBas
The 11th GroverDusting this one off since I was reminded of it... If there are no objections, I'm going to start to clean the job listings from the character sheets for Final Fantasy III and Final Fantasy V and put them on the main page of each article. I figure that the topic had lain fallow for too long; I wanted to see if there were objections before I got started on this.
The 11th GroverWell, I just did all of Final Fantasy III. I anticipate that Final Fantasy V will distinctly take longer.
Diablo has character entries for all the classes.
edited 26th Jul '12 11:24:51 PM by AceOfSevens
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