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Can PC classes have their own Character page?:

I was thinking about making a page for Worldof Warcraft PC classes, but is it okay to do it?

What gave me the idea was the fact SWTOR has their PC classes as part of the games character page (and yes I know that SWTOR's PC classes are more story driven that World of Warcraft's classes are).
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 2 Fighteer, Tue, 31st Jan '12 6:32:46 AM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
The main World of Warcraft article already has a list of the classes. We also have entries for the game's classes on many other pages like An Adventurer Is You. Doing it in the form of a characters page would seem to be pointless — the classes are not characters. I haven't played SWTOR, so I don't know how much personality the game gives to its classes, but it seems to me that it's missing the point to give them a separate article.
Ironically, the pursuit of the definition of happiness does not appear to be a happiness-maximizing behavior.
 3 bwburke 94, Tue, 31st Jan '12 8:54:31 AM from Massachusetts Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
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What about the Characters pages for Final Fantasy III and V? Right now, the job classes are listed as characters.
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 4 Fighteer, Tue, 31st Jan '12 8:59:07 AM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Look, I can't personally stay on top of everything happening on the wiki, but I strongly disagree with doing it that way. Classes are not characters. I'm not going to tell you up front to wipe all of them out, because the wiki operates by consensus. But I am giving you my opinion on the matter as a moderator.

edited 31st Jan '12 8:59:25 AM by Fighteer

Ironically, the pursuit of the definition of happiness does not appear to be a happiness-maximizing behavior.
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Well for some games such as Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy jobs are pretty much cross over characters.

Like nearly every Final Fantasy game has a Dragoon even if it does not run on a Job System and the Dragoon job has its own tropes associated with it across all the works since FFIII. (Makes it into Kingdom Hearts and other places, even Shout Outs elsewhere.)

[up] When classes themselves have their own tropes that apply to them they should be listed as such because some tropes are only associated with the class not the character. And classes have their own personality too, They should get their own folder in the character page.

Hell Dragon Quest IX the only characterization your party gets is their classes.

edited 31st Jan '12 10:38:18 AM by Raso

 6 Fighteer, Tue, 31st Jan '12 11:06:44 AM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
All of that can fit handily on the main page with the rest of the tropes. We don't spin off subpages for plot tropes, setting tropes, metatropes, etc., either.

edited 31st Jan '12 11:07:14 AM by Fighteer

Ironically, the pursuit of the definition of happiness does not appear to be a happiness-maximizing behavior.
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They are character tropes about specific things about a character they need to be organized as such and they only apply there.

Start a druid character in World of Warcraft and shapeshifting is part of your character in the game.

Classes get everything a character does even their own Weapon of Choice, Limit Break, Costume tropes yada they are a character.

edited 31st Jan '12 11:13:25 AM by Raso

 8 Fighteer, Tue, 31st Jan '12 11:13:23 AM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Incorrect. Character sheets are for characters. Player Characters do not count. Character classes — that is, archetypes or molds — do not count.

edited 31st Jan '12 11:14:02 AM by Fighteer

Ironically, the pursuit of the definition of happiness does not appear to be a happiness-maximizing behavior.
 9 Helter Skelter, Tue, 31st Jan '12 11:14:18 AM Relationship Status: Drift compatible
SWTOR is notably different, in that it's an MMO with a strong role-playing bent. Each class has their own story and character, and lines. That really can't be said for most other MM Os.

edited 31st Jan '12 11:15:01 AM by helterskelter

 10 Fighteer, Tue, 31st Jan '12 11:17:04 AM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
[up] Indeed; that's what I was inquiring about. It seems reasonable to let SWTOR have a character sheet if the classes are given a heavy story focus, such that they play like people with prebuilt stories and personalities.

FYI, the Warcraft franchise already has a character sheet, Characters.Warcraft. It's about the actual characters in the franchise — you know, Arthas, Thrall, etc.? The ones with names?

edited 31st Jan '12 11:17:25 AM by Fighteer

Ironically, the pursuit of the definition of happiness does not appear to be a happiness-maximizing behavior.
 11 Helter Skelter, Tue, 31st Jan '12 12:45:29 PM Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I think that's what OP means by its own "page". A subpage for the classes.

 12 Fighteer, Tue, 31st Jan '12 12:47:23 PM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
I see no reason to do it. (Edit: And I type well, too)

edited 31st Jan '12 12:47:41 PM by Fighteer

Ironically, the pursuit of the definition of happiness does not appear to be a happiness-maximizing behavior.
I'm with Fighteer. Classes might have associated tropes but they are not characters and should not be listed as such.
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 14 32 Footsteps, Thu, 2nd Feb '12 7:19:34 AM from Just north of Arkham Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
I'll also agree with Fighteer. Particularly since classes are almost always covered by one or two tropes. Even in Final Fantasy V, where there are several gameplay tropes covered by each job, you can save time and space by merely listing all of them on the main page (particularly since many share tropes... Squishy Wizard is used for nearly all of the mage classes, for example). And don't even get me started in the abuse of the Weapon of Choice trope on said page.
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 15 Mag Bas, Fri, 6th Apr '12 3:43:00 PM from In my house
Hmm....a question. It also applies to species and factions?

 16 Jordan, Fri, 6th Apr '12 3:49:12 PM from Westeros
Azor Ahai
I've kind of been wondering about something along these lines- more specifically where works have an Adventuring Party that closely follows the Dungeons & Dragons model, and I forget what it was called, but I believe there was an attempt once to have an YKTTW involving the Thief class.
Hodor
 17 Fighteer, Fri, 6th Apr '12 8:31:33 PM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Some people have tried to shoehorn the standard D&D adventuring party into the Five-Man Band, but that only applies in specific cases. Regardless, they are not characters in the sense that we define the term, and do not get Characters pages.
Ironically, the pursuit of the definition of happiness does not appear to be a happiness-maximizing behavior.
 18 32 Footsteps, Fri, 6th Apr '12 9:23:32 PM from Just north of Arkham Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
In that case, shall I begin cleaning out the character pages for Final Fantasy III and Final Fantasy V''?
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
Azor Ahai
[up][up] Don't think I expressed myself well. Was kind of thinking of two things. One is the idea which I realize has a trope already- the behavior known as Dungeon Crawling.

The other idea is for works that have a team that duplicates or fits closely a Dungeons & Dragons adventuring party (i.e. there will be a fighter, who is typically a bruiser; a Glass Cannon thief, a cleric who plays the role of healer (if female, they will be a White Magician Girl), and a wizard, often squishy).

There are some works like Rune Soldier Louie that are literally based on someone's Dungeons & Dragons game, and so have a main cast where each person fits one of these roles exactly. Not to mention things like The Order of the Stick or Darken, which are set in the gaming universe and likewise have a cast where each character will fit one type.
Hodor
 20 Fighteer, Sat, 7th Apr '12 4:58:14 AM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
[up][up] I have expressed my opinion earlier that "jobs" and "classes" are not characters and should not get character sheets. Depending on the game in question, however, they may be given more of a story role — like how Star Wars: The Old Republic assigns each class not only a skillset but a personality and a storyline.

If you create a Standardized Adventuring Party from the game's race/class menu, those characters are typically generic to the point where they do not exhibit any Characterization Tropes. Competitive Balance tropes alone do not justify a characters page, in my opinion.

edited 25th Jul '12 7:30:20 AM by Fighteer

Ironically, the pursuit of the definition of happiness does not appear to be a happiness-maximizing behavior.
 21 Mag Bas, Sat, 19th May '12 3:05:13 PM from In my house
[up]hmm... I guess it is an "yes" to the question of 32 Footsteps, right?

edited 19th May '12 3:07:02 PM by MagBas

 22 32 Footsteps, Wed, 25th Jul '12 7:29:02 AM from Just north of Arkham Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
Dusting this one off since I was reminded of it...

If there are no objections, I'm going to start to clean the job listings from the character sheets for Final Fantasy III and Final Fantasy V and put them on the main page of each article. I figure that the topic had lain fallow for too long; I wanted to see if there were objections before I got started on this.
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
 23 Fighteer, Wed, 25th Jul '12 7:30:00 AM from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
You already know that I agree with this.
Ironically, the pursuit of the definition of happiness does not appear to be a happiness-maximizing behavior.
 24 32 Footsteps, Wed, 25th Jul '12 1:09:46 PM from Just north of Arkham Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
Well, I just did all of Final Fantasy III. I anticipate that Final Fantasy V will distinctly take longer.
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
Diablo has character entries for all the classes.

edited 26th Jul '12 11:24:51 PM by AceOfSevens

 
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