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What is this, exactly?: Old School Dogfighting get usage counts

 126 Marq FJA, Sat, 17th Mar '12 9:05:40 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Are any of the current crowner options mutually exclusive with any of the others?
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 127 Native Jovian, Sat, 17th Mar '12 5:34:46 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
Nope, if they're all approved, we can do all three.
 128 Native Jovian, Fri, 23rd Mar '12 9:16:22 AM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
It's been a week, and all three are in the green. Should we call this?
 129 Marq FJA, Fri, 23rd Mar '12 10:11:43 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
I think so. Hollering now...
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 130 ccoa, Fri, 23rd Mar '12 10:18:14 AM from the Sleeping Giant
With Mod Hat On
Calling in favor of all the crowner options.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 131 Native Jovian, Sat, 24th Mar '12 3:40:26 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
Sandbox versions up at Sandbox.Old School Dogfighting, Sandbox.Space Dogfight, and Sandbox.Space Is Air. We're going to have to do some serious example and wick sorting to make sure everything gets pointed to the right place, though.

Question: should we rename Old-School Dogfighting to Old-School Dogfight while we're at it? It makes it more sentence-friendly, and you can always add the "ing" back on with curly braces anyway.
 132 Marq FJA, Sun, 25th Mar '12 7:10:21 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Seems good to me.
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 133 Native Jovian, Sat, 31st Mar '12 7:00:24 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
I've moved all the appropriate examples from Old-School Dogfighting to Sandbox.Space Dogfight. I'm going to check Old-School Dogfighting wicks for examples to put in Sandbox.Old School Dogfighting. Gonna need some help with Sandbox.Space Is Air examples — it's mostly a visual trope, and all of the examples I've seen so far fit better under the Sandbox.Space Dogfight subtrope, so I need some Wiki Magic to gather examples from stuff I'm not familiar with.

What do we thinking of renaming Old-School Dogfighting to Old-School Dogfight while we're at it?

edited 31st Mar '12 7:00:48 PM by NativeJovian

I got a question: What is the definition of "old-school", as in the trope name? WW1? WW2? Vietnam? Current? Depending on which one, some terrestrial examples of this trope can exist, and some real life ones, if the right definition is used. Too many posts to read, but did you think about that yet?
 
 135 Native Jovian, Sun, 1st Apr '12 8:50:37 AM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
"Old school" refers to dogfighting at all, basically. If you're launching missiles at each other from beyond visual range, it's not old school dogfighting. If you're firing all-aspect missiles from any which way and letting them do the hard work of actually hitting your target, then that's not old school dogfighting. If you're Chasing Your Tail in order to get behind them and then fire a missile, that does count as old school dogfighting.
 136 Nohbody, Sun, 1st Apr '12 8:54:59 AM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
"Old school" as in hailing back to the days before all those new-fangled geegaws ( tongue ) like missiles that can get kills before either combatant is in visual range of one another.

edited 1st Apr '12 8:55:28 AM by Nohbody

 137 ccoa, Wed, 2nd May '12 6:32:39 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Is this done? It's been inactive for a month.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 138 Native Jovian, Wed, 2nd May '12 5:05:23 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
Sandbox.Space Dogfight is done; Sandbox.Old School Dogfighting and Sandbox.Space Is Air both have descriptions but no examples. I never really got any feedback on any of it, so it stalled.
Anything new? Anything?
 
 140 ccoa, Fri, 13th Jul '12 8:04:06 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
And again, inactive for a month. Is anyone going to do anything here, or should we shelve this?
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
Unfortunately, none of the crowner results, as far as I can tell, have been implemented. I can definitely blank Old-School Dogfighting in preparation for the new trope, and put what's in there into Space Dogfighting (as long as someone tells me how).

Is the Space Dogfighting sandbox still operational? Has anyone YKTTW'ed Space Is Air?

 142 Trev MUN, Wed, 22nd Aug '12 10:23:57 AM from YOU STALKER, YOU!
The Infamous Trev-MUN
Hey, was it ever brought up that this trope has suffered big-time Trope Decay?

The original YTTKW for Old-School Dogfighting by Haibane was about starfighter combat almost always happening within visual range, and almost never with any missiles.

I'm way too late for this discussion, but I figured it should be noted what the trope initially was about.

 143 Marq FJA, Wed, 22nd Aug '12 7:49:51 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
It had been brought up, and it was also determined that the most probable reason for that is that 1) there's no real link between the trope's current name and the "space fighter" aspect, and 2) we have yet another case of Missing Supertrope Syndrome.
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 144 lu 127, Sat, 24th Nov '12 2:51:40 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Clock is in place. Either this starts moving again or it's going to the morgue.
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 145 Septimus Heap, Sat, 24th Nov '12 3:06:18 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
I'll take Space Is Air to YKTTW if there aren't any objections.

 146 Madrugada, Sat, 24th Nov '12 9:45:16 AM Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
No objection here.
'He strutted across the bedroom, his hard manhood pointing the way' sounds like he owns a badly named seeing-eye dog. 'Sit, Hard Manhood!
 147 Septimus Heap, Sat, 24th Nov '12 3:22:00 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
I'll do it tomorrow, then, when my "first reading coma" is over.note 

 148 lu 127, Fri, 14th Dec '12 8:06:38 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
I guess this really needs a clock. Again. I will send it to the morgue if nothing gets done.

edited 14th Dec '12 8:07:26 AM by lu127

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代わりに祈りの唄
 149 Septimus Heap, Fri, 14th Dec '12 8:27:36 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
YKTTW is here. Someone will have to find a better description, since I can't do this.

 150 Native Jovian, Sun, 16th Dec '12 3:05:48 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
Well, the sandbox pages I had from back in this post are gone now, but I suppose I can type up a new description for Old-School Dogfighting. One question I have though, is Space Dogfight distinct enough from Space Is Air and Old-School Dogfighting to warrant its own trope? It just seems to be "old school dogfighting and space is air at the same time".

And while I'm thinking about it, it might be a good idea to change the name to just Old-School Dogfight to make it more sentence-friendly.

edited 16th Dec '12 3:06:57 PM by NativeJovian

Page Action: Old School Dogfighting
16th Mar '12 1:59:06 PM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
At issue:
Note that none of these options are mutually exclusive.
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