Clarification and cleanup: More Dakka

There are realistic uses of More Dakka but it's largely suppression fire in that case.

Agreed. Or the scene in Saving Private Ryan where the face-off in the alley is ended by a high volume of automatic fire from two M1 Thompsons.

Yep. Sounds like you get what the trope is now.

More like, you get it that I already knew what the trope was.

Okay, I put the new, more concise description in the actual article. The examples are pretty bad, and will take some time to clean up.

I don't know, I don't see how "rapid fire" or "Lots of firepower" is a trope. As noted above, rapid firepower and lots of firepower are things that happen in real life. If I may quote from People Sit On Chairs:

"Tropes are conventions used in storytelling to convey some sort of information to the audience. People Sit On Chairs don't convey any meaning — they aren't storytelling conventions at all, they're just things that happen normally or incidentally during the storytelling"

How is lots of rapid fire conveying information to an audience? It seems to me that if there is a trope here then it would have to be unrealistic large amounts of firepower or heavy rates of fire.

Also, as suggested above, the trope should be renamed to an English-language name, as apparently (if it even exists) it is not exclusive to the world of anime.

"Dakka" is not an anime term, nor is it a Japanese word. It's an onomatopoeia for the sound of automatic weapons fire used by Warhammer 40k. Seriously, that's like the first line of the article.

And we just had a discussion on its tropeworthyness,

edited 3rd Feb '12 2:34:12 PM by NativeJovian

In short, it's still a trope the same way Cool Car is a trope. Yes, Cool Cars and high volume of auto-fire exist in real life, but they aren't really frequently seen here. In fiction, you get both of them all the time. More Dakka is also usually about unrealistic use of automatic fire, or sometimes just gratuitous use that can still be realistic. See the second Saving Private Ryan example I described a few posts back.

Also, "Dakka" has nothing to do with anime. It's a Warhammer 40000 term used by the Orks there. It's just onomatopoeia for the sound of automatic fire.

edited 3rd Feb '12 2:35:01 PM by Martello

"It's an onomatopoeia for the sound of automatic weapons fire used by Warhammer 40k. Seriously, that's like the first line of the article."

The word "Warhammer" appears nowhere in the description. I don't know what "Ork slang" means, but if the name must stay the same we might want to write about Warhammer in the article instead of relying on an outgoing link. My apologies for assuming that an obscure non-English term was anime.

However, it still seems to fall under the first test of renaming tropes, that the name is unclear. Are most people, or even most Internet-using people, going to know what "dakka" means? And how do we feel about naming things after works, much less slang terms from works? Everything You Wanted To Know About Changing Names cites naming tropes after characters as an example of Fan Myopia and something that should be avoided. Isn't this the same idea (or rather the same problem)?

edited 3rd Feb '12 2:53:14 PM by Vidor

Warhammer 40k is potholed from "Ork slang" — though you're probably right in that it could be made more prominent.

Either way, though, renaming More Dakka is pretty much out of the question. It's got 2300 wicks and 10,000+ inbounds. Those are huge numbers, so we need a really, really good reason to change the name. There was misuse, but most of it was due to the unclear description (which has now been fixed) or left over from before the other Spam Attack subtropes were created, so examples and wicks just need to be moved to the appropriate place (which we're about to do).

Finished cleanup through Film. This page is quite the fucking project.

Cleaned up most of Literature. It's UFC time, I'll have to finish this later.

Cleaned through Live Action TV. Do we need to keep this thread open? I'm gonna finish the cleanup today, so no real need for any more discussion.

Nope. I'll lock it up.