All-Purpose Nasuverse Fanfiction Thread:

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1776 SCMof281422nd Oct 2012 06:17:35 AM from Center of Madness, 2814 , Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
Damn My Yuri Charisma!
He's the Berserker Rani has in Fate/EXTRA.
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1777 EvaUnit0122nd Oct 2012 07:32:22 AM , Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
The Phenomenal One
I wonder why Nasu bothered creating such intricate rules when he just pisses all over them anyway?

Beyond the Impossible exists and is f*cking awesome for a reason, y'know.

If it's Rani's Berserker, then the name is Lu Bu.
1778 SCMof281422nd Oct 2012 08:17:12 AM from Center of Madness, 2814 , Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
Damn My Yuri Charisma!
Hey, does anyone here read Temeraire? Because I would LOVE to see Fate/stay night set in that world. Legendary Dragonsů Sigurd as Saber and Fafnir as Berserkerů hmm, some allowance might need to be made to classes for dragons..
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1779 IAmNotCreativeEnough22nd Oct 2012 08:39:48 AM from asa kara ban made omae o miru , Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
Then again, it's not Dynasty Warriors Lu Bu, so he's perfectly beatable. Even Berserker!Lu Bu is more manageable than a Hyper Lu Bu in Chaos Difficulty.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
1780 MarqFJA22nd Oct 2012 10:02:42 AM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
One vision, one purpose
Ah, but then again, the Berserker class technically prevents a Servant from using any Personal Skills or NPs that rely on such things as fine motor control that are negated by Mad Enhancement. And since the author has already shown his willingness to invent new-but-logical NPs for Berserker!Herakles, it's all too possible that he might give Lu Bu one or two plausible NPs (whether physical or conceptual) that he understandably couldn't use as a Mad Berserker.

On another note... Genghis Khan vs. Alexander the Great. Only time will tell who will eventually win this Epic Showdown of the World's Greatest Warrior-King Conquerors.

edited 22nd Oct '12 10:03:02 AM by MarqFJA

Where there is Distress, therein lies a Story. Where there is a Story, therein lies a Will. Where there is a Will, therein lies a Soul.
1781 IAmNotCreativeEnough22nd Oct 2012 10:06:09 AM from asa kara ban made omae o miru , Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
Victory or defeat, we win either way.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
1782 EvaUnit0122nd Oct 2012 10:10:29 AM , Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
The Phenomenal One
Much as Arturia Saber tends to irritate me, I'd actually like to see her go head-to-head against Achilles. Both of them are literally and absolutely Nigh Invulnerable, ignoring the heel. Yes, this means she has Avalon for the scrap.
1783 MarqFJA22nd Oct 2012 10:10:58 AM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
One vision, one purpose
Any bets on the identity of The Ancient that summoned Moses and Samson? Because I have a hunch that it's the Biblical Cain.

[up] Saber's Avalon only confers Nigh-Invulnerability as a passive aspect. Its true special ability renders her completely invulnerable to any attack or even dimension-magic, which is why Nasu purposefully only allows her to discover that it's been within Shiro all along and subsequently recover it in the end of the Fate route, where it's her only chance to win her battle against the Ea-wielding Gilgamesh. In any other route, such a thing happening would've broken their respective plots.

edited 22nd Oct '12 10:16:39 AM by MarqFJA

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1784 EvaUnit0122nd Oct 2012 10:20:23 AM , Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
The Phenomenal One
Yes, I remember that.

Passive Nigh-Invulnerability.

Just like Achilles has got.

Cue Showdown.
1785 SCMof281422nd Oct 2012 10:24:36 AM from Center of Madness, 2814 , Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
Damn My Yuri Charisma!
You really don't understand Arturia, do you? She nigh invulnerable because she has mild regen. Not even Wolverine regen, MILD regen. Achilles is vulnerable the way Superman is invulnerable.
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1786 Augustine22nd Oct 2012 10:24:38 AM from the Church on the hill , Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
My King
Achilles would win if she didn't know who he was. He can shrug off anything, while Arturia can still be wounded. Achilles wasn't an arrogant fighter like Gilgamesh. Well, he was arrogant, but he wouldn't screw around. Pretty sure Arturia would find herself on the wrong end of a lance pretty quickly.
1787 IAmNotCreativeEnough22nd Oct 2012 11:19:01 AM from asa kara ban made omae o miru , Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
He was arrogant, yes, but unlike Gilgamesh, who spends most of his time toying with his opponents, if you weren't worthy of fighting a drawn out battle, Achilles just killed you, plain and simple.

However, if she just goes for safe and Excalibur-izes the crap out of him from the get go, she can win, and if she activates Avalon, it's gonna be one long ass fight.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
1788 Augustine22nd Oct 2012 11:26:07 AM from the Church on the hill , Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
My King
Remember that just excaliblasting his heel won't kill him. Paris used a poison arrow.
1789 IAmNotCreativeEnough22nd Oct 2012 11:29:01 AM from asa kara ban made omae o miru , Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
It won't kill him... but it will destroy the heel entirely. Which means that he will have only one leg. Fighting with your movement impaired like that? Difficult.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Fridge Logic: If only the heel was vulnerable, wouldn't the poison have become harmless after the blood pumped out of the heel area?
1791 Augustine22nd Oct 2012 11:34:29 AM from the Church on the hill , Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
My King
But that doesn't change the fact that he is still unkillable. If Kirei could fight without a heart, Achilles can fight wthout a foot. [up]

His outside is invulnerable.

edited 22nd Oct '12 11:35:37 AM by Augustine

1792 EvaUnit0122nd Oct 2012 11:37:06 AM , Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
The Phenomenal One
Problem: Saber can remove leg by excaliblasting heel.

Solution: just tank it with the rest of his body.
[up][up]Makes you wonder why no one tried to slip poison into his food or drink, then.
1794 Augustine22nd Oct 2012 11:42:40 AM from the Church on the hill , Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
My King
Poison was a woman's weapon in ancient Greece.
1795 dRoy22nd Oct 2012 11:47:38 AM from Army , Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
A Private First Class. Ladies.
On another note... Genghis Khan vs. Alexander the Great. Only time will tell who will eventually win this Epic Showdown of the World's Greatest Warrior-King Conquerors.

Funny you should ask.
Shit I have to put up with for the sake of my country...
1796 IAmNotCreativeEnough22nd Oct 2012 11:49:07 AM from asa kara ban made omae o miru , Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
Fact: He'll bleed out eventually. And fighting without a heart isn't the same as fighting without a foot. The later can technically be done, yes, but it still doesn't change the fact that you need both feet for proper foot movement, and if you can't even stand properly, you're going to die.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Princess Ymir's knightess
Saber wins, because, unlike Achilles, she doesn't suck as a character!
Shadowed Philosopher
I have the sense that Achilles' Nigh-Invulnerability is going to be vulnerable to a greater mystery in the same way that Heracles' is. Which means that Excaliblast will probably just kill him regardless.

The Ancient is just about certainly Cain. Ancient, incapable of dying, called 'murderer'. I wonder, though. If he wants to die, and knows enough about the Grail War to know it has a chance of killing him, then he's presumably done magical research regarding ways of (potentially) killing him. So why hasn't he sought out one of the Shikis?
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1799 dRoy22nd Oct 2012 12:02:00 PM from Army , Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
A Private First Class. Ladies.
Achilles was a petty, whiny SOB. With hax.
Shit I have to put up with for the sake of my country...
Princess Ymir's knightess
YOU SACK OF WINE!

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