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All-Purpose Nasuverse Fanfiction Thread:

 1776 SC Mof 2814, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 6:17:35 AM from Center of Madness, 2814 Relationship Status: Robosexual
I love you too much to let you suffer.
He's the Berserker Rani has in Fate/EXTRA.
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 1777 Eva Unit 01, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 7:32:22 AM Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
I wonder why Nasu bothered creating such intricate rules when he just pisses all over them anyway?

Beyond the Impossible exists and is f*cking awesome for a reason, y'know.

If it's Rani's Berserker, then the name is Lu Bu.
 1778 SC Mof 2814, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 8:17:12 AM from Center of Madness, 2814 Relationship Status: Robosexual
I love you too much to let you suffer.
Hey, does anyone here read Temeraire? Because I would LOVE to see Fate/stay night set in that world. Legendary Dragonsů Sigurd as Saber and Fafnir as Berserkerů hmm, some allowance might need to be made to classes for dragons..
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 1779 I Am Not Creative Enough, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 8:39:48 AM from the nearest church Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Literally Heartless Villain
Then again, it's not Dynasty Warriors Lu Bu, so he's perfectly beatable. Even Berserker!Lu Bu is more manageable than a Hyper Lu Bu in Chaos Difficulty.
"I am not, and have never been, a computer program created by the moon's perverted and twisted sense of humor."
 1780 Marq FJA, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 10:02:42 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Ah, but then again, the Berserker class technically prevents a Servant from using any Personal Skills or NPs that rely on such things as fine motor control that are negated by Mad Enhancement. And since the author has already shown his willingness to invent new-but-logical NPs for Berserker!Herakles, it's all too possible that he might give Lu Bu one or two plausible NPs (whether physical or conceptual) that he understandably couldn't use as a Mad Berserker.

On another note... Genghis Khan vs. Alexander the Great. Only time will tell who will eventually win this Epic Showdown of the World's Greatest Warrior-King Conquerors.

edited 22nd Oct '12 10:03:02 AM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 1781 I Am Not Creative Enough, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 10:06:09 AM from the nearest church Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Literally Heartless Villain
Victory or defeat, we win either way.
"I am not, and have never been, a computer program created by the moon's perverted and twisted sense of humor."
 1782 Eva Unit 01, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 10:10:29 AM Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Much as Arturia Saber tends to irritate me, I'd actually like to see her go head-to-head against Achilles. Both of them are literally and absolutely Nigh Invulnerable, ignoring the heel. Yes, this means she has Avalon for the scrap.
 1783 Marq FJA, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 10:10:58 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Any bets on the identity of The Ancient that summoned Moses and Samson? Because I have a hunch that it's the Biblical Cain.

[up] Saber's Avalon only confers Nigh-Invulnerability as a passive aspect. Its true special ability renders her completely invulnerable to any attack or even dimension-magic, which is why Nasu purposefully only allows her to discover that it's been within Shiro all along and subsequently recover it in the end of the Fate route, where it's her only chance to win her battle against the Ea-wielding Gilgamesh. In any other route, such a thing happening would've broken their respective plots.

edited 22nd Oct '12 10:16:39 AM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 1784 Eva Unit 01, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 10:20:23 AM Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Yes, I remember that.

Passive Nigh-Invulnerability.

Just like Achilles has got.

Cue Showdown.
 1785 SC Mof 2814, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 10:24:36 AM from Center of Madness, 2814 Relationship Status: Robosexual
I love you too much to let you suffer.
You really don't understand Arturia, do you? She nigh invulnerable because she has mild regen. Not even Wolverine regen, MILD regen. Achilles is vulnerable the way Superman is invulnerable.
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 1786 Augustine, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 10:24:38 AM from the Church on the hill Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
My King
Achilles would win if she didn't know who he was. He can shrug off anything, while Arturia can still be wounded. Achilles wasn't an arrogant fighter like Gilgamesh. Well, he was arrogant, but he wouldn't screw around. Pretty sure Arturia would find herself on the wrong end of a lance pretty quickly.
 1787 I Am Not Creative Enough, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 11:19:01 AM from the nearest church Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Literally Heartless Villain
He was arrogant, yes, but unlike Gilgamesh, who spends most of his time toying with his opponents, if you weren't worthy of fighting a drawn out battle, Achilles just killed you, plain and simple.

However, if she just goes for safe and Excalibur-izes the crap out of him from the get go, she can win, and if she activates Avalon, it's gonna be one long ass fight.
"I am not, and have never been, a computer program created by the moon's perverted and twisted sense of humor."
 1788 Augustine, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 11:26:07 AM from the Church on the hill Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
My King
Remember that just excaliblasting his heel won't kill him. Paris used a poison arrow.
 1789 I Am Not Creative Enough, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 11:29:01 AM from the nearest church Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Literally Heartless Villain
It won't kill him... but it will destroy the heel entirely. Which means that he will have only one leg. Fighting with your movement impaired like that? Difficult.
"I am not, and have never been, a computer program created by the moon's perverted and twisted sense of humor."
 1790 Napoleon De Cheese, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 11:34:06 AM from Valencia, Venezuela
Uuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh...
Fridge Logic: If only the heel was vulnerable, wouldn't the poison have become harmless after the blood pumped out of the heel area?
"The curse of manga. Too popular: forced to continue forever. Unpopular: forced to rush the ending."- Wise words from an Anon.
 1791 Augustine, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 11:34:29 AM from the Church on the hill Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
My King
But that doesn't change the fact that he is still unkillable. If Kirei could fight without a heart, Achilles can fight wthout a foot. [up]

His outside is invulnerable.

edited 22nd Oct '12 11:35:37 AM by Augustine

 1792 Eva Unit 01, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 11:37:06 AM Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Problem: Saber can remove leg by excaliblasting heel.

Solution: just tank it with the rest of his body.
 1793 Napoleon De Cheese, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 11:40:26 AM from Valencia, Venezuela
Uuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh...
[up][up]Makes you wonder why no one tried to slip poison into his food or drink, then.
"The curse of manga. Too popular: forced to continue forever. Unpopular: forced to rush the ending."- Wise words from an Anon.
 1794 Augustine, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 11:42:40 AM from the Church on the hill Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
My King
Poison was a woman's weapon in ancient Greece.
 1795 d Roy, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 11:47:38 AM from New York Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
Blurrggghh.
On another note... Genghis Khan vs. Alexander the Great. Only time will tell who will eventually win this Epic Showdown of the World's Greatest Warrior-King Conquerors.

Funny you should ask.
 1796 I Am Not Creative Enough, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 11:49:07 AM from the nearest church Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Literally Heartless Villain
Fact: He'll bleed out eventually. And fighting without a heart isn't the same as fighting without a foot. The later can technically be done, yes, but it still doesn't change the fact that you need both feet for proper foot movement, and if you can't even stand properly, you're going to die.
"I am not, and have never been, a computer program created by the moon's perverted and twisted sense of humor."
Princess Ymir's knightess
Saber wins, because, unlike Achilles, she doesn't suck as a character!

Shadowed Philosopher
I have the sense that Achilles' Nigh-Invulnerability is going to be vulnerable to a greater mystery in the same way that Heracles' is. Which means that Excaliblast will probably just kill him regardless.

The Ancient is just about certainly Cain. Ancient, incapable of dying, called 'murderer'. I wonder, though. If he wants to die, and knows enough about the Grail War to know it has a chance of killing him, then he's presumably done magical research regarding ways of (potentially) killing him. So why hasn't he sought out one of the Shikis?
Shinigan (Naruto fanfic)
 1799 d Roy, Mon, 22nd Oct '12 12:02:00 PM from New York Relationship Status: How YOU doin'?
Blurrggghh.
Achilles was a petty, whiny SOB. With hax.
Princess Ymir's knightess
YOU SACK OF WINE!

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