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This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.

Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/) or, if they don't have an article, on Quotes Looking for an Article.

Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread in the Image Pickin' forum.

Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#251: Jan 10th 2013 at 1:44:58 PM

Laser Blade and Elegant Weapon for a More Civilized Age have the same quote.

As tempting as it is to change the latter to the spoof joke from Bored of the Rings, I think there's got to be something better than that.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
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#252: Jan 10th 2013 at 1:47:22 PM

On Laser Blade, the quote doesn't do anything to be about the trope. It's just a reference to it. On Elegant Weapon for a More Civilized Age it's at least pertinent to the trope.

Thus, remove it from Laser Blade.

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#254: Jan 11th 2013 at 12:57:07 AM

I suggest this quote for Laser Blade.

->"This toasts bread while you are slicing it." —>— Trillian, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

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#255: Jan 11th 2013 at 2:04:33 AM

Duct Tape for Everything currently has two page quotes, and neither one of them is all that good. There are a number of far better quotes on the quotes page. My favorites are the Burn Notice one, and the Mythbusters one, but obviously it would be a good idea to get more opinions.

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#256: Jan 11th 2013 at 7:05:16 AM

I'm with you on neither of the current ones being that good. The Burn Notice one is great, though I also like the Marvel vs. DC and Brian Lambert ones.

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#257: Jan 11th 2013 at 7:21:38 AM

I think the first quotation on the page is better than the Burn Notice one. I don't like that one at all. The MythBusters one is great. The "unknown" in the middle also works.

edited 11th Jan '13 7:22:07 AM by AnotherDuck

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#258: Jan 11th 2013 at 9:39:27 AM

re: proposal for Laser Blade: I think that could work (although I'm not sure that lasers would actually toast bread... tongue)

re: Duct Tape for Everything: I like the Mythbusters quote best for the page. I agree with Duck that the Burn Notice one isn't great.

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
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#259: Jan 11th 2013 at 12:43:20 PM

Switched the Laser Blade quote.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
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#260: Jan 11th 2013 at 12:46:01 PM

So consensus seems to be that the Mythbusters one is best. I'll swap them out then.

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#261: Jan 12th 2013 at 5:15:04 AM

So how should we play things with Dystopia Justifies the Means? It has two page quotes, and whilst the 1984 one is not a duplicate of the one on Despotism Justifies the Means, they're from the same speech (in which O'Brien discusses the nature of the Party). I'm not sure if that muddies the waters a bit between what are two distinct tropes.

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#262: Jan 12th 2013 at 6:07:40 AM

I am inclined to use the 1984 quote in both places. The Despotism Justifies the Means is definitively talking about the Party (and thus the despotism) while Dystopia Justifies the Means talks about the world (and thus the dystopia). Never mind that the other quote in Dystopia Justifies the Means talks about people, which seems closer to Despotism and not Dystopia to me.

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#263: Jan 12th 2013 at 2:44:54 PM

[up] Agreed. (I seem to be saying that a lot on this thread... tongue)

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#264: Jan 13th 2013 at 2:37:35 AM

"Save the World" Climax has a quote and Quotes/ page that refers to Saving the World, a different trope.

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#265: Jan 13th 2013 at 10:14:11 AM

[up] I'd say cut them.

(Also, on a different note: why is there a series folder on that page?)

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#266: Jan 21st 2013 at 2:12:59 AM

The Scrounger currently has two page quotes. I'm partial to the first one because it seems a little bit clearer to non-fans. What do the rest of you think?

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#267: Jan 21st 2013 at 2:28:59 AM

Pick the first quote. The second makes no sense.

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#268: Jan 21st 2013 at 4:33:11 AM

Plus one for first.

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#269: Jan 21st 2013 at 11:24:42 AM

Another vote for the first one.

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#270: Jan 21st 2013 at 1:09:48 PM

Executed.

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#271: Jan 21st 2013 at 2:26:05 PM

I wonder if we could use this quote or a variant of it somewhere on Memetic Mutation or its quotes page: ->"Those should be chainsawed with a passion because meme's are never as wide spread as the person spreading them thinks they are." —>— shimaspawn, about memes on TV Tropes.

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#272: Jan 22nd 2013 at 4:59:12 AM

He Who Fights Monsters is awfully long. Does anyone have any better quote?

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#273: Jan 22nd 2013 at 5:01:00 AM

There is a nice selection on the Quotes/ tab.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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#274: Jan 22nd 2013 at 5:09:59 AM

It seems to me the Nietzsche quote does it, then.

>"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." —>— Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil

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#275: Jan 22nd 2013 at 5:15:59 AM

Yeah, pick Nietzsche.

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