This has got to be one of the most awkward snowclones on the site. The connection between this trope and Tall, Dark and Handsome is minimal and best, and painfully shoehorned at worst. Also, you know a trope name is bad when there's a bold inflated notice on the page telling you "this trope is not X, it's Y, " something that would not need to be there if the trope had an actual intuitive name.
On a side note, this trope seems to collect a lot of Zero Context Examples; we should do something about that.
Well, there are over a thousand wicks and 800 inbounds, so I think it warrants a wick check before renaming. That said, I will note that as anecdotal evidence goes, the aloofness part of the trope only seems to be adhered to because it's such a popular combination rather than because people fully grasp the trope.
Hm. I'd say both of the Amagami examples are correct usage. The Hibiki one is correct, and if I remember who the second one is talking about correctly, she is also a correct example. Probably on accident, but still a correct example.
Dark hair is optional as well, judging by the description.
EDIT: I should also mention that if you read the example list, you'll see quite a bit of "X is a blonde example" and other Word Crufty garbage like that.
The physical requirements are a matter of discussion rather than something to be unilaterally declared. I do feel that the trope is normally for dark hair, though not necessarily black. Purple, dark blue or brown would also work.
Anyway, are we going to get a more complete wick check?
Tenjou Utena in Revolutionary Girl Utena, one of the early incarnations of this character type — except for her hair, which is pink in the anime and strawberry-blonde in the manga.Correct as being perceived as this in universe
There's no doubt the she is perceived as this by her schoolmates (with all that Even the Girls Want Her aura), but she isn't aloof at all. Juri from the same series is a much better example, although she has orangePrincess Curls.
Sakaki in Azumanga Daioh is a subversion - her apparent aloofness is really because she's a Shrinking Violet, in spite of her physical appearance. Correct, she is treated as this in universe
Polgara the Sorceress from The Belgariad, oh so very much. Correct, oh so very much so
Blanche Ingram from Jane Eyre has the looks, but her personality is more Rich Bitch than "alluringly aloof." Notes how she doesn't fit the personality trope
Eugenie Danglars from The Count of Monte Cristo. Might be correct, depends on which version of Countof Monte Cristo.
Mirtai from The Elenium nails ALL the traits of the trope, but still doesn't quite qualify. Why? Herothertraits...Notes how she doesn't fit the trope
Susan Sto Helit and Adora Belle Dearheart from Discworld. Don't Know
China Sorrows from Skulduggery Pleasant is very much this trope: she's tall, beautiful, dark-haired, aloof, and can make men and women fall head-over-heels in love with her. Sounds correct
Zoe from Firefly, with Wash helpfully playing the part of her Moe. Don't Know
Music
Megurine Luka, one of the Vocaloids, was designed with this image in mind... except her hair, which is pink like that of the previously mentioned Utena. Probably Correct
Miku in A Profile. She appears to be fairly popular with guys because of it, but is largely uninterested in them since she already loves someone else. Don't Know, but sounds correct
Kaya from Aoi Shiro as well as a milder version in Ayashiro. Don't Know
As does Rin Tohsaka, who despite being a bit on the shorter side, more than makes up for it with the rest of her reputation, personality, and appearance. Probably correct
Orihime in Kara no Shoujo who is tall, elegant, aloof and refined. She's also highly repressed and ends up starting a prostitution ring involving herself and girls that she knows who feel the same way.Don't Know, but sounds like she might be
Natsuhi from Umineko no Naku Koro ni. Would probably be an adult counterpart to The Ojou if she didn't have a tendency to get upset and yell at people so easily. Don't Know
Mai in Kanon, with the "undeserved delinquent reputation" variant. Don't Know, but probably correct
Western Animation
Raven from Teen Titans despite having short hair. In two episodes she grew waist length hair. Correct
Ember from Danny Phantom, though she really IS a delinquent. Don't Know
Mai, Princess Ursa and Azula from Avatar: The Last Airbender. Correct- note that this includes a character with white hair who fits the trope
Might be some issues (although as a side note the anime/manga examples which are the vast majority seem pretty solid). However, it doesn't seem to be a problem with people overly focused on the physical aspects. Just the usual attempt to shoehorn your favorite character into every trope you can stuff.
Yeah, is bisho underage, or at least young aged demographic? That alone is enough for me to suggest a name change because the title is wrong as this is an appearance trope, one I admit, makes little sense to me but still its an appearance trope, not a demographics trope.
Well, I'll help you sort out those.
From anime, the Higurashi no Naku Koro ni example doesn't appear to grasp the trope. I'd say they're all wrong except for Miyo, who is blond. Mion and Shion are both pretty outgoing and Rena is neither tall nor aloof.
For visual novels, the A Profile, Canvas 2, Chaos;Head, and Fate/stay night examples are correct. Well Rider part of the FSN example is. The Tohsaka part is not correct, since being tall is definitely part of the trope and she's of average height. However, the judging by what is written the actual intent of the trope is understood, meaning a blatantly shoehorned example. Kara no Shoujo is correct and so are the Umineko no Naku Koro ni and Kanon examples.
For Western Animation, the Danny Phantom example is incorrect.
Edit: As a side note, none of these girls has any fangirls to speak of. I also detect some overlap with Sugar and Ice Personality.
To be honest I don't really like the trope description at all. "She's aloof and therefore attracts a large following" are directly contradictory to each other.
I'd really say we drop the gender and appearance together. Limit this to aloof characters who end up with a posse/groupies whatever anyway.
Why is that so contradictory? Also, the way you want to redefine it completely changes the trope. The point isn't that they get fangirls: That's actually optional. The point is that they're tall, stoic and aloof. Usually dark haired too.
To be aloof is to be distant, that's why its contradictory. And change the trope? If the concept is a lot broader than what it's been pigeonholed into then why not? This is the repair shop. Character who is aloof but gains themselves hanger ons despite it doesn't seem like something limited to tall girls. The way this trope gets used its not part of the bisho demographic anyway(Torrie Wilson? Then again that's just plain misuse because she's hardly "aloof")
That's not what aloof means. Aloof means that a character is above the petty squabbles of other characters. It doesn't mean she can't be admired and that she can't be popular, but she's likely to only have a few true friends. Most of her hangers on are just going to be admiring her from afar.
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.
She's usually The OjouIce Queen or Aloof Big Sister, and often has an Instant Fanclub who admires her, which she largely ignores, but people worship her anyway. Also probably on the School Council.
I'm wondering if this isn't just a subtype of The Ojou, really.
edited 24th Jan '12 12:05:22 AM by NoirGrimoir
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Purple Is The New Black.
Hm, being a subtrope of The Ojou seems likely. Possibly a derivative based on giving a specific look and personality based on being The Ojou and then the look and personality broke off of The Ojou specifically?
It was folded into Purple Is The New Black sometime ago IIRC. It is very prevalent in anime since the animation is done via black lines so Black hair with Black lines lose detail in the hair so its Dark Purple or Dark Blue (rarely Dark Green)
Alternative Titles: Tall Dark And Bishoujo
19th Dec '12 8:34:19 PM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the name will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of Crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative names.
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That trope just means purple being used to highlight black in certain cases. It doesn't really relate to hair color.
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