Do we need this?: Final Fantasy XV

Don't be fooled by the description, read the hottip. There has been no information whatsoever about the game; only the slight indication that it may, at some point, exist.

It has no tropes (Development Hell belongs on Trivia), and one of the two examples on the YMMV page seems to be based on someone misreading the actual article.

edited 20th Jan '12 10:55:26 AM by MangaManiac

I'd say delete until it's released and it can be created again.

There are no heroes left in Man.

Yeah, I'd say cut this until it's at least been announced, so we have something to put here other than "It'll probably exist".

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It seems likely to be announced at E3 this year. Is it really so big a deal that we have to cut it for 5 months? Especially given that it's been around for at least 2 years now.

edited 20th Jan '12 11:57:40 AM by ccoa

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.

I don't see why we should have the page for now. Without any information all the page does is just speculate about the game, and therefore it's not a good work page. When it's announced, with trailers and real info, we can make a page for it. But for now it's gonna be 5 months (at least, there's no guarantee that E3 will announce it) of simple natter.

There are no heroes left in Man.

This seems like overkill for something that isn't actually hurting anything (unlike an actual misused trope or a page full of sniping and complaining). Cutting it means a locked page, which means bureaucracy to get it unlocked later. Not to mention time wasted for people here and on the cutlist. I just don't see the necessity.

It's also not Natter by our definition, but that's being pedantic, I suspect.

Well, whatever. Like I said, not a big deal.

edited 20th Jan '12 12:08:46 PM by ccoa

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.

I think it should stick around due to arguably being announced (Square Enix have been forward with intending to make it, although not giving a precise date or the like as yet). That said, I'd remove almost everything on there (particularly Development Hell, since we don't know if that even applies right now) and lock it until they start making official announcements about it.

Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.

Lock it then, instead of cutting. But it's not really been announced, so until then all we'll have is speculation, not a work page.

There are no heroes left in Man.

True; all of the word so far has been the obvious nodding and the "we can't get too much into that yet" that S-E folks get into when the topic is brought up in interviews (heck, in searching just what has come to light yet, apparently they've already at least given the nod to Final Fantasy XVI, which also shouldn't get a page any time soon). Also, it feels silly to cut something when we know we'll remake it in a couple months' time.

Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.

It will come out eventually, and there's nothing wrong with having the page before its release since it will probably have trailers and stuff beforehand, so there's no reason to cut it or lock it. If you want, we can take out the second paragraph and the examples section, which will discourage people from adding superfluous stuff until they actually know something solid.

We're not just men of science, we're men of TROPE!

Not seeing the value of having this. Especially since we have no clue WHEN it'll be announced. And the only "trope" was a misuse.

@OP: And Development Hell is not about a long development cycle, it's about a delayed, stalled, pushed back, left-to-rot-in-Hell long development process.

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.

"It will come eventually". And FFXVI will too, I'm quite sure of it, yet I don't create a page for it when it's not even been announced, there are no trailers, no official info, anything more than just mere speculation. There is no sense in having a page about something that doesn't even officially exist yet.

There are no heroes left in Man.

The Dark Knight doesn't have its own page, but Final Fantasy XV does?

(That's right. I said "The Dark Knight," not "The Dark Knight Rises.")

While I agree that this was created prematurely for no good reason, it seems pointless to cut it now, especially since it appears we'll soon get info on it in E3.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer

That's speculation. We are NOT sure that we'll get info about FFXV in E3. And while we wait it's 5 months of people being able to write whatever they want without any proof that makes their editions correct. If we're not going to cut it (which, taking into account that it doesn't officially exist, it's what we should do) we should at least lock it to prevent having to clean it when we get real information about the game.

There are no heroes left in Man.

I doubt we're going to get any E3 news. SE only just released XIII-2*

, and last I heard they were still working on XIV (which has yet to even have it's PS 3 release).

This isn't even in rumour stage. This is in "probably might happen" stage.

What about its WMG page? Are guesses about what the game might be like worth having around?

I'm not crazy, I just don't give a darn!

So, instead of one page of speculation we have 2. Double the reasons to cut and lock this.

WMG should be about unresolved plot points in the work that allow diverse explanations, not about "the main hero will use a sword".

There are no heroes left in Man.

This is a pointless page and allowing its continued existence sets a bad precedent. Nuke it.

Oh yeah, now that I read those theories, they are uninteresting and trivial.

I'm not crazy, I just don't give a darn!

I can't believe someone actually made this page. Cut it. When someone feels like announcing it, it can come back. But we don't make pages for works that MIGHT exist because they don't have tropes.

Should we get a crowner for this?

No crowner necessary. This page is pure idiocy. I've already cutlisted it.

edited 22nd Jan '12 3:32:04 PM by FinalStarman

I'm not crazy, I just don't give a darn!

The cut request was declined. I'm trying again, but we may need a crowner for this after all.

I'm not crazy, I just don't give a darn!